L24 BM4 Fasthard (X) vs Amon-Sul (L+24) Game 4


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  • TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Samara to Kazakhstan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            5 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            7 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            10 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
    
        Place Units - Russians
            3 artilleries placed in Novgorod
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            4 infantry placed in Russia
            1 mech_infantry placed in Volgograd
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Baltic States: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Belarus: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Novgorod: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Western Ukraine: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bryansk: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • @fasthard said in L24 BM4 Fasthard (X) vs Amon-Sul (L+24) Game 4:

    @Amon-Sul dices had fun after 1st round…
    In total an average result I think.

    At the moment with the experiance I got esp. durling the last month playing via forum I’m not a big fan of not bidding a uk sub in 98 and not go for taranto. I’ve got the feeling that it’s last to long to get another good change to sink the Italian fleet…
    Or maybe I did not got how to do so…

    Yeah, dice roller coaster
    In the end i think both sides can be content

    Germany destroyed a UK navy and kept a few planes
    UK had -20 TUV and it could be worse , destroyed bunch of Germany s precious planes

    Game goes on

    AS for the Taranto thing

    It is a question of a long term debate

    Top players dont go for it (even with the sz 98). Exception is Gamerman, he often does it, but not always.

    The reason why top players dont go for it is RISK. They avoid it as much as possible. Also there is loss of AC and risk of a Sea Lion.

    They usually move to sz 92 and protect their navy and Gibraltar


  • But of course sz 97 early attack has its pros, not just cons, as u mentioned it earlier.

    Ok,

    Japan on the move…

    Godspeed :)


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 2

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 fighters and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese
            1 armour moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China
                  Japanese take French Indo China from French
            1 armour moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            2 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Malaya
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kwangtung
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 artilleries moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            5 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
            1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 battleship moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            2 destroyers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to 21 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Malaya
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to Kwangtung
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            2 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
    
        Combat - Japanese
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • @Amon-Sul Do you want to scramble to 21?
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  • @fasthard

    No scramble


  • U surprised me Again

    I have not anticipated J2 DOW


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 fighters and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese
            1 armour moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China
                  Japanese take French Indo China from French
            1 armour moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            2 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Malaya
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kwangtung
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 artilleries moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            5 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
            1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 battleship moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            2 destroyers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to 21 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Malaya
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to Kwangtung
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            2 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Borneo
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in 62 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 62 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 62 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Guam
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine
                Americans defend with 1 airfield and 1 fighter
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Guam, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine in Guam, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in Guam, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Guam
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 marine in Guam, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in Guam, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Guam
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Guam
                Japanese win, taking Guam from Americans with 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
            Battle in Kwangtung
                Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangtung
                    2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung
                Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in Philippines
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Philippines, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Philippines
                    2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
                Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                    2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 2 destroyers, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 destroyers and 1 tactical_bomber in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC and 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 2 destroyers, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 3 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 2 : 6/8 hits, 3,83 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 3 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                    3 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State
                Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 3 infantry
            Battle in Malaya
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Malaya
                Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 21 Sea Zone to Manchuria
            2 fighters moved from Kwangtung to Manchuria
            1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to Kwangsi
            2 bombers moved from Malaya to Kwangsi
            1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
            3 fighters placed in Japan
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 45 PUs; end with 49 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 52 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0,33
    Americans regular : 1,00
    Japanese regular : -0,50
    ANZAC regular : 0,67
    UK_Pacific regular : 1,00
    

    Savegame


  • @Amon-Sul let’s try some new stuff. I’m ot a big fan of J2 but I don’t want to wait till US are back again at Midway and Japs have to decide to go for some islands or protect the north…


  • @Amon-Sul btw: Do you know that you are allowed to onload ground units during combat move in a hostile seeazone when you just declared war? I learned this exception rule in another ongoing game.


  • @fasthard said in L24 BM4 Fasthard (X) vs Amon-Sul (L+24) Game 4:

    @Amon-Sul btw: Do you know that you are allowed to onload ground units during combat move in a hostile seeazone when you just declared war? I learned this exception rule in another ongoing game.

    U mean load or offload?

    I think u can load them

    I think i tried it with Japan in triple a


  • I am out of town for 10 days. My move Will have to wait.

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