TGC (Allies) vs SBY (German), D-Day game 4 with TGC balance

@kwaspek104 @The_Good_Captain
Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from White Sea Sea Zone to Barents Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Moscow to Hungary 1 fighter moved from Moscow to Baltic States 3 infantry moved from Archangel to Karelia 4 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad 2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Baltic States 2 infantry moved from East Poland to Hungary 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Bessarabia 1 armour moved from Caucasus to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus 3 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Baltic States 1 armour moved from Archangel to Leningrad 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Moscow to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Siberia to Leningrad 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Siberia to Russia 1 armour moved from Turkestan to Leningrad Combat - Russians Battle in Bessarabia Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Bessarabia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Hungary Russians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Hungary, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Hungary, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Hungary 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Hungary Russians win, taking Hungary from Germans with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 artillery in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 artillery Battle in Barents Sea Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 submarine and 1 transport Germans defend with 1 submarine Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Barents Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Barents Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Barents Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Russians lost in Barents Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine owned by the Russians retreated to White Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Russians: 1 transport Non Combat Move - Russians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Barents Sea Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode EDIT: 1 submarine moved from White Sea Sea Zone to Barents Sea Sea Zone EDIT: Russians undo move 1. 1 infantry moved from Belorussia to East Poland 4 infantry moved from Moscow to Belorussia 1 aaGun moved from Moscow to Belorussia 3 infantry moved from Turkestan to Belorussia 1 aaGun moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia 1 bomber moved from Hungary to Leningrad 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Leningrad Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Leningrad Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1.33 Russians regular : 1.67

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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in SBY (German) vs TGC (Allies) D-Day with TGC balance:

@The_Good_Captain

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Still underrolling on those reinforcements. Those strafe rolls were… disheartening to say the least.

@VictoryFirst @SuperbattleshipYamato

This is not how two fighters over a territory work and I cannot accept the result in G36. Two fighters does NOT make eight strafe rolls - it makes two rolls per unit. This means that any second kill from a ‘snake eyes’ result is ignored and not dispersed to another unit.

Unless VF comes up with some magic to make this work in accordance with the rules, I will say there are two acceptable ways to resolve this. 1) Let TripleA roll the dice for one fighter and the survivors get rolled for the remaining fighters per unit on the forum or 2) roll all the dice for moves into territories with two fighters on the forum (the exception to this is if there is only one unit - then everything I mentioned is not applicable and can be done through TripleA)

@SuperbattleshipYamato just re-roll the entire roll for G36 if you please. Two dice per unit. Not eight dice total. It will be too difficult to find out what’s fair using the current roll. Thats my two cents anyway. If anyone feels differently, let me know.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: UK_Pacific round 2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Combat - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 12 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 27 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to Hawaiian Islands 1 destroyer moved from 59 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 59 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States Place Units - Americans 1 carrier placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 transport placed in 104 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 54 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 4 artilleries; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Shansi Combat - Chinese Battle in Shansi Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shansi Chinese win, taking Shansi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Tsinghai 1 fighter moved from Shansi to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 4 artilleries placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 13 PUs; end with 14 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 2 destroyers, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to 78 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 78 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to French Madagascar 1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to Italian Somaliland British take Italian Somaliland from Italians 1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Kenya 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Kenya 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 98 Sea Zone British attack with 1 fighter Italians defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Italians: 1 transport Battle in French Madagascar Battle in Kenya British attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kenya 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kenya British win, taking French Madagascar from Neutral_Axis, taking Kenya from Italians with 1 armour and 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Southern Persia British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 marine moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 marine moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java UK_Pacific take Java from Dutch 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 42 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Celebes UK_Pacific take Celebes from Dutch 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 78 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone Place Units - British 2 destroyers and 1 transport placed in 109 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6 British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.17 Italians regular : 0.67 Japanese regular : -0.33 British regular : 0.50

Savegame

Well I’ve stayed up a lot later than I usually do, cheers 🍻

@VictoryFirst

Wow! Never noticed that. Should I redo those moves?

@dawgoneit

Scramble the fighter and one tactical, please.

Game History

Round: 13 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Russia to Evenki National Okrug Russians take Evenki National Okrug from Japanese 1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to South Europe Russians take South Europe from Germans Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 9 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia Place Units - Russians 5 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 26 PUs; end with 27 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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