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SbY (Al) vs CdS (Ax) Europe 1940 2nd
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Game History
Round: 4 Politics - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 bombers and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod Germans take Novgorod from Russians 10 armour, 4 bombers and 11 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk 3 bombers moved from Western Germany to Bryansk 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Syria to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from Greece to Bryansk 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 105 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Greece 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Greece 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern Italy 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to France 2 mech_infantrys moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 5 artilleries and 26 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus Combat - Germans Battle in 105 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 105 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 105 Sea Zone Germans win, taking 105 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine Battle in Bryansk Germans attack with 10 armour, 7 bombers, 3 fighters, 11 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 23 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Bryansk : 2/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 7 bombers, 1 fighter, 11 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Bryansk, round 2 : 14/30 hits, 12.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 23 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 8/25 hits, 8.33 expected hits 8 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk 12 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 aaGuns owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 7 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Bryansk, round 3 : 8/22 hits, 11.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 11 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 5/13 hits, 4.33 expected hits 2 armour owned by the Germans and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk 8 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 7 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Bryansk, round 4 : 10/17 hits, 9.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Bryansk, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk 3 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 8 armour and 7 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10 Casualties for Germans: 2 armour, 3 fighters, 11 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 23 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 aaGuns moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus 7 bombers moved from Bryansk to Belarus 2 tactical_bombers moved from 105 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France Place Units - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Bryansk: 1 armour EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Belarus: 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Belarus: 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Bryansk: 1 armour EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 bombers and 1 fighter placed in Western Germany Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 112 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 125 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 45 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -1.17 Russians AA : 1.00
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If you decide to attack Belarus, I’ll give the OOL after each round of attack.
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Russians Russians repair damage of 4x factory_major; Remaining resources: 30 PUs; Russians buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq Combat - Russians Battle in Iraq Russians attack with 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys Italians defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Iraq Russians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Iraq, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Iraq, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Iraq Russians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Iraq, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Iraq Russians win, taking Iraq from Italians with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 22 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda Place Units - Russians 9 infantry placed in Russia 1 infantry placed in Volgograd Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs Objective Russians 4 Far East Reserves: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 33 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -1.33 Russians regular : -3.00
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Map is missing
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Sorry, forgot that you do all in one and send with UK
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 2 fighters moved from 102 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom 1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 5 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 3 submarines and 5 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 carrier moved from 102 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to Quebec Place Units - Americans 2 fighters and 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 20 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - British British buy 1 factory_minor and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Syria 3 fighters moved from Egypt to Syria 1 bomber moved from Egypt to Northern Italy 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Northern Italy Combat - British Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy Italians roll AA dice in Northern Italy : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the British killed by AA in Northern Italy Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Northern Italy causes 5 damage total. Battle in Syria British attack with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry British roll dice for 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Syria, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Syria British win, taking Syria from Italians with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Syria to 98 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Syria to Egypt 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Tunisia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from French West Africa to 87 Sea Zone 1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 87 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar Place Units - British 2 fighters placed in 106 Sea Zone 1 factory_minor placed in Persia Turn Complete - British British collect 34 PUs; end with 36 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.33 British regular : 1.00 Italians AA : 0.67
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UK Turn 4 Complete Global 1940 Game 20.tsvg
Do answer my question:
Which is better in your opinion? G2 or G3?
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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in SbY (Al) vs CdS (Ax) Europe 1940 2nd:
UK Turn 4 Complete Global 1940 Game 20.tsvg
Do answer my question:
Which is better in your opinion? G2 or G3?
Are you talking about a G2 or G3 attack on Russia?
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It all depends on how the situation is on the rest of the map. If the Russians are gathering at the border, then you might consider a G2. But if UK is heavily into fleet, close to Western Europe, you might consider to focus on that in G2. I prefer a G3, because I need to prepare for it, with air and other units (from Paris) and purchase. Plus I also need the help from Italy and make sure I have them to clear the way on Russian soil.
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Ukraine to Rostov Italians take Rostov from Russians 1 armour moved from Rostov to Bryansk 1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 armour moved from Belarus to Smolensk Italians take Smolensk from Russians 1 armour moved from Smolensk to Bryansk Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy Place Units - Italians 2 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Greece: 1 bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Southern Italy: 1 bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs
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I also believe that a G3 is better, because it doesn give Russia much time to get Iraq and other territory’s that are pro Axis. The Russians shouldnt have lots of PU, if you go to soon, you might not be able to counter their NO’s (for example: sub in sz125)
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Yeah. Odd then that my G3 was “too slow”. I see your purchases were quite different from mine? Is that the key?
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Game History
Round: 4 Combat Move - French 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar Non Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt Turn Complete - French
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Yes, its not so much which turn you attack (altough, like I explained, all conditions most be perfect, when you attack), but the way with which you attack. I believe that you need units that are mechanized and supported by air too quickly push into Russia. If Russia has the chance to stop you at Bryansk, your attack (taking MOS) is most likely doomed to fail. Because at that time you are getting two fronts (perhaps even three) East and West. My goal is to get MOS in R6, R5 is even better! I still believe that if both sides (players) are equal to each other, or the one playing Allies is a little bit better, the game can continue after the fall of MOS.
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You may have noticed that you got a sbr run in MOS, normally MOS is out of reach from the bombers, but with the help of Italy its possible to reach it and devastate Russian factory to the point that you cant produce a lot of units anymore. So its necessary for each side (Axis or Allies) to help their partners achieve goals in defense or attack. Its like chess, each move (in each turn) prepares for the next and the next etc.
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Game History
Round: 5 Politics - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov Germans take Tambov from Russians 1 armour moved from Tambov to Russia 7 armour moved from Bryansk to Russia 7 bombers moved from Belarus to Russia 3 bombers moved from Western Germany to Russia 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Greece to Russia 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel Germans take Archangel from Russians Combat - Germans Battle in Russia Germans attack with 8 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 : 12/21 hits, 12.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 2 : 5/17 hits, 6.50 expected hits 5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia 12 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Russia Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 3 : 11/16 hits, 10.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits 2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 fighters owned by the Russians lost in Russia Germans captures 36PUs while taking Russians capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 1 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for Germans: 7 armour Casualties for Russians: 2 fighters, 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Smolensk 3 aaGuns, 5 artilleries and 26 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland 7 bombers moved from Russia to Novgorod 3 bombers moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Greece 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy 2 infantry moved from France to Northern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy 1 destroyer moved from 105 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 105 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 3 infantry placed in France 3 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany 1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 85 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 90 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 100 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -2.00 Germans regular : 0.50
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Game History
Round: 5 Combat Move - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 22 infantry moved from Vologda to Samara 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Caucasus Turn Complete - Russians
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