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SbY (Al) vs CdS (Ax) Europe 1940 2nd
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - British British buy 1 factory_minor and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Syria 3 fighters moved from Egypt to Syria 1 bomber moved from Egypt to Northern Italy 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Northern Italy Combat - British Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy Italians roll AA dice in Northern Italy : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the British killed by AA in Northern Italy Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Northern Italy causes 5 damage total. Battle in Syria British attack with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry British roll dice for 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Syria, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Syria British win, taking Syria from Italians with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Syria to 98 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Syria to Egypt 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Tunisia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from French West Africa to 87 Sea Zone 1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 87 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar Place Units - British 2 fighters placed in 106 Sea Zone 1 factory_minor placed in Persia Turn Complete - British British collect 34 PUs; end with 36 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.33 British regular : 1.00 Italians AA : 0.67
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UK Turn 4 Complete Global 1940 Game 20.tsvg
Do answer my question:
Which is better in your opinion? G2 or G3?
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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in SbY (Al) vs CdS (Ax) Europe 1940 2nd:
UK Turn 4 Complete Global 1940 Game 20.tsvg
Do answer my question:
Which is better in your opinion? G2 or G3?
Are you talking about a G2 or G3 attack on Russia?
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It all depends on how the situation is on the rest of the map. If the Russians are gathering at the border, then you might consider a G2. But if UK is heavily into fleet, close to Western Europe, you might consider to focus on that in G2. I prefer a G3, because I need to prepare for it, with air and other units (from Paris) and purchase. Plus I also need the help from Italy and make sure I have them to clear the way on Russian soil.
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Ukraine to Rostov Italians take Rostov from Russians 1 armour moved from Rostov to Bryansk 1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 armour moved from Belarus to Smolensk Italians take Smolensk from Russians 1 armour moved from Smolensk to Bryansk Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy Place Units - Italians 2 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Greece: 1 bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Southern Italy: 1 bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs
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I also believe that a G3 is better, because it doesn give Russia much time to get Iraq and other territory’s that are pro Axis. The Russians shouldnt have lots of PU, if you go to soon, you might not be able to counter their NO’s (for example: sub in sz125)
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Yeah. Odd then that my G3 was “too slow”. I see your purchases were quite different from mine? Is that the key?
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Game History
Round: 4 Combat Move - French 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar Non Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
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Yes, its not so much which turn you attack (altough, like I explained, all conditions most be perfect, when you attack), but the way with which you attack. I believe that you need units that are mechanized and supported by air too quickly push into Russia. If Russia has the chance to stop you at Bryansk, your attack (taking MOS) is most likely doomed to fail. Because at that time you are getting two fronts (perhaps even three) East and West. My goal is to get MOS in R6, R5 is even better! I still believe that if both sides (players) are equal to each other, or the one playing Allies is a little bit better, the game can continue after the fall of MOS.
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You may have noticed that you got a sbr run in MOS, normally MOS is out of reach from the bombers, but with the help of Italy its possible to reach it and devastate Russian factory to the point that you cant produce a lot of units anymore. So its necessary for each side (Axis or Allies) to help their partners achieve goals in defense or attack. Its like chess, each move (in each turn) prepares for the next and the next etc.
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Game History
Round: 5 Politics - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov Germans take Tambov from Russians 1 armour moved from Tambov to Russia 7 armour moved from Bryansk to Russia 7 bombers moved from Belarus to Russia 3 bombers moved from Western Germany to Russia 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Greece to Russia 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel Germans take Archangel from Russians Combat - Germans Battle in Russia Germans attack with 8 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 : 12/21 hits, 12.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 2 : 5/17 hits, 6.50 expected hits 5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia 12 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Russia Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 3 : 11/16 hits, 10.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits 2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 fighters owned by the Russians lost in Russia Germans captures 36PUs while taking Russians capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 1 armour, 10 bombers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for Germans: 7 armour Casualties for Russians: 2 fighters, 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Smolensk 3 aaGuns, 5 artilleries and 26 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland 7 bombers moved from Russia to Novgorod 3 bombers moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Greece 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy 2 infantry moved from France to Northern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy 1 destroyer moved from 105 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 105 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 3 infantry placed in France 3 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany 1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 85 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 90 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 100 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -2.00 Germans regular : 0.50
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Game History
Round: 5 Combat Move - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 22 infantry moved from Vologda to Samara 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Caucasus Turn Complete - Russians
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 5 bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 104 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 104 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in 104 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 submarine Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 2 submarines and 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 2 fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 aaGun moved from Quebec to Eastern United States Place Units - Americans 5 bombers placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 20 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -0.33
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - British British buy 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from Tunisia to Northern Italy 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya British take Libya from Italians 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia British take Ethiopia from Italians Combat - British Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy Italians roll AA dice in Northern Italy : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Northern Italy causes 6 damage total. Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Algeria 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Ethiopia 2 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 2 mech_infantrys moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 2 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan Place Units - British 3 infantry placed in Persia 3 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 36 PUs; end with 41 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians AA : -0.17
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Thank you for all the advice!
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 airfield, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Caucasus 3 armour moved from Bryansk to Caucasus 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Caucasus Combat - Italians Battle in Caucasus Italians attack with 3 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Russians defend with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry Italians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys in Caucasus, round 2 : 6/8 hits, 3.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys in Caucasus, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Italians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Caucasus 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians, 1 mech_infantry owned by the British, 2 armour owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Caucasus Italians win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 2 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for Russians: 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 mech_infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 infantry moved from British Somaliland to Italian Somaliland Place Units - Italians 1 airfield placed in Northern Italy 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 2.50 Russians regular : 0.83
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No problem, ask anything you want, except for the # of my girl ;)
I dont mind explaining, but I always feel that everyone plays with a strategy you cant fully explain and copy, because of countermeasures by your opponent and or switching dice results. Also its for sure that its more fun to find something of your own to surprise your opponents with. I suggest you play on in a game untill the victory is certain for either side.
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I think I’ll change my ITA turn.