Limits on Infantry Builds

@vodot Thanks! I made some edits to the original post based on our discussion. I hear you that it is important to avoid unreasonable “side-stepping” of blockades, but trying to count up fractional territories is way more bookkeeping work than I want to assign. Instead, I give players the choice of using either a land supply line or a sea supply line, but not both.

@regularkid:

not to nitpick, but to maintain consistency with the OOB rules, I would keep it so that sAirbases and Navalbases are considered fully operational if they have 2 or less damage. Making it different amounts of damage for different functions introduces needless complexity. Just my two cents.

You’re right, why add complexity if not needed…

**-Cruisers and Battleships may pick up and drop off 1 infantry unit each during the non-combat movement phase only.

-Operational naval bases may mobilize 1 transport unit each during the mobilize new units phase.

-Operational airbases may launch 1 infantry unit each into a hostile territory 3 spaces away during the combat movement phase.**

@The11HP20:

I guess this is where things get complicated. These are the types of units I want in each force. How many of each should I have to ensure I never run out no mater what I’m playing. Obviously I have some house rules in mind.

Light inf
Heavy inf
Mech inf
Light arty
Heavy arty
(Possibly) sp arty
Armored cars or light tanks
Med tanks
Heavy tanks
Fighters
Tac bombers
Bombers
Transports
Subs
Destroyers
Cruisers
Battleships
Carriers

Many of these items are available from HBG although you’re going to be playing the waiting game for a bit for every nation to have a full range of sculpts.

@AlphaKappa:

 Which Neutral Powers would have the economic equivalent of a “Minor Industrial Complex”?

I think Spain, Turkey and Sweden are the obvious neutral powers that have a large enough industrial base to build their own tanks, planes and ships. Depending on how the sculpts are going to look, I think the Italian burnt orange will fit Spain, and maybe the french dark blue will fit Sweden. Turkey already got their units.

Maybe use the medium green for Brazil, and lime green to supply China.

Maybe even Canada can have own nation specific units ?

The Russian maroon will fit Mongolia I guess

Making units obsolete/worthless is what I was getting at in my post. I don’t think that’s exactly the case, but it can sort of make it a speciality item, and I’m not sure if the incomes are high enough for that. Not sure if I’m wording this write either.

Reading what you wrote about the late war carriers, maybe you could make the rules time related. Meaning they are like automatic technologies that appear after a certain round and just replace the older ones. All infantry gets those bonuses with movement and everything, and still costs 3 IPC, after the 5th round maybe. Fourth, even.

I don’t know. I like the idea (especially the mech inf), but it’s hard to implment.

Well the map is not accurate in this respect, but Shanghai would be Japanese original. If it was up to me the VC should be in Manchukuo and that other territory held in Chinese control in 1941. Sometimes you have to just do the best of a bad situation.

remember the 4X rule in these places and also the variations on costs for infantry depending on VC.

1.  Is there a limit as to the number of infantry that can be built at VCs?

yes of course, the 4x rule…

2.  If China is incapable of replacing American aircraft or building armor, why are they given a factory in the game?  In reality, China had only the capability to build infantry - which was poorly trained and equipt.  The presence of a factory in the game allows for China to build any type of unit.

4x rule allows them to only build artillery or infantry ( or mech)

As infantry are built at victory cities, I propose removing the factory from China.

but what about artillery? China had artillery and they are but an army of misfits w/o them

Yes quite right, but it should have made it in the game and its an important consideration that was neglected in revised. Now Germany can land 2 men each turn and not worry about those trannys. Plus moscow will be defended as england.