@Caesar:
I’d rather do the dog fight rule, it makes a lot more sense.
Yes that’s what I meant by combat.
The Map Modification Question
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2.) yeah the figures for Wake and Caroline is probably only the main island, which is already very small
the assosicated islands are even smaller…its of strategic importance, but I don’t think we should model that with IPC
those islands do not produce crap at, right?Okinawa is 1 IPC and bloody 2,271.30 km^2 !
the AARHE rules already model the islands’ strategic importance
for example, US can’t send FTR to Wake or Midway without Long Range Aircraft tech
they have to resort to NAV for the Pacific war
because they can be transported by carriers
but they have even shorter range
I think there should be island hopping now4.) yeah we could put in terrain text like you said, again “clean” would be good
probably just one wordSahara, Saudi Arabia: desert
Greenland, Alaska, Soviet Far East: Snowy
Southern Europe, Turkey, Mongolia, Persia, Afghanistan: Mountainous
Himalayas: Extreme5.) like you map new island shapes and then resized them to keep them same size as in revised map?
+++ no changes in this only add values the shapes need to look the same.oh we are getting confused, you keep saying “no changes”
I mean to ask is this what you did? you obtained new island shapes with Illustrator and then resized to so its similar to the revised board?anyway, the proportions are ok
only thing is: I prefer the size of Wake Island to be reduced to size of Midway Island
just details hehe6.) I don’t even know lol, typo probably
basically, we could shape Turkey like in this map?
http://www.travel-images.com/az-turkey-map.jpg
because we had to add the canal symbol and making it clear you can now move from Turkey to Balkans -
oh we are getting confused, you keep saying “no changes”
I mean to ask is this what you did? you obtained new island shapes with Illustrator and then resized to so its similar to the revised board?++++ huh? no i traced them from the base map. Nothing is changed on any map of this project except adding VC, some IPC, and a color for italy, along with a few new territories …all of which are for the phase three map.
anyway, the proportions are ok
only thing is: I prefer the size of Wake Island to be reduced to size of Midway Island
just details hehe6.) I don’t even know lol, typo probably
basically, we could shape Turkey like in this map?
http://www.travel-images.com/az-turkey-map.jpg
because we had to add the canal symbol and making it clear you can now move from Turkey to Balkans++++++ I am not sure why Turkey has to be changed. I can easily add a “canal” mark which is clear. If i change one thing i must change all. otherwise people will say " why did you “fix” turkey and not the rest"? Others will say why make a map change at all. If i redo the map entirely people will not see any shread of revised axis and allies left. remember the original map is meant to be played with this varient. I want to keep the choices low so its not like its not too unfamiliar.
If you want me to redo Turkey just for you i can but that will be your print.
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wait I am getting confused
the map you sent me has modified (more realistic) continent linesis this the phase 3 map in the making?
or are you saying phase 3 map with italy won’t have any continent line upgrades?the map you sent me did have “historical edition” on it written in red though
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wait I am getting confused
the map you sent me has modified (more realistic) continent lines++++ The map you have is for phase 1-2
is this the phase 3 map in the making?
or are you saying phase 3 map with italy won’t have any continent line upgrades?++++ the phase 3 map is a different undertaking alltogether. I have it a nobody has seen it yet.
the map you sent me did have “historical edition” on it written in red though
++++ yes right it will have the full title redone better. -
so are you saying the phase1/2 map will have those continent line updates
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Phase 1-2 map is what you got. except i need to add additonal victory cities
Phase 3 map is with every map change. its the only version that will feature italy, plus changes in IPC values and additional territories.
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I am still confused
let me try to ask differentlyhow come many continent lines have improved in realism (eg. Gilbratar, Japan, Pacific Islands) but you don’t want to change Turkey so that it shows clearer you can now move between Turkey and Balkans?
what was the base map you used?
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Thrace will get in the way guys… It will be a violation of Neutrality…
GG
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you are now allowed to attack neutral territories
you may also get them to join your side thru diplomatic dices
some neutrals have armies (most apparently Spain, Turkey, Sweden)check out the latest draft under “phase 8: diplomacy”
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=7188.0 -
So is this “attacking”? I think this would give them a enemy “diplomatic chit”…
GG
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how come many continent lines have improved in realism (eg. Gilbratar, Japan, Pacific Islands) but you don’t want to change Turkey so that it shows clearer you can now move between Turkey and Balkans?
what was the base map you used?
+++ i still used the base map (original) but tracing was done with some minor considerations. The opening is large to show its easy to move into the balkans w/o looking too weird… (like a flood occured)
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@Guerrilla:
So is this “attacking”? I think this would give them a enemy “diplomatic chit”…
well the neutral isn’t on your team and you move troops there you attack it
it joins the enemy immediatelywhat do you mean “diplomactic chit”?
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another words, it decreases from your side one level…
GG
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when a neutral is attacked by you it immediatly becomes a full bar ally of the nearest enemy player. They have full use of it: economics, military
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@Imperious:
+++ i still used the base map (original) but tracing was done with some minor considerations. The opening is large to show its easy to move into the balkans w/o looking too weird… (like a flood occured)
oh, like 2nd edition map or something? cos it looks different to revised
opening is large to show its easy to move into balkans? move into Balkans from where? -
hows the “no Italy map” coming along?
added VC in yet?have you adjusted the Turkey area so its easily seen you can move from Balkans in Turkey?
and add the canal “double line” and position it so its clear you need control of Turkey to go into Black Sea… -
I will start on it this weekend…
I will add an arrow to show linkage for turkey
canal for suez and panama will have those lines
actually turkey should be the same treatment as suez … hence it should get the canal lines…
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yeah whats what I meant
it should be the “double red lines” canal symbol
since thats how our rules have it for Black Seajust instead of in the middle of two territories (like Anglo-Egypt and Trans-Jordon) it’ll be fully inside Turkey (like Panama)
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