Scramble to defend a lone transport

The game rules regarding submarines not making a sea zone hostile do not seem to reflect the realities of what submarines did in WW II.  The Allies developed anti-submarine forces and the convoy system to fight the German submarine threat in the Atlantic theater and were, after a time, able to virtually eliminate the submarine threat from this “hostile sea zone”.  On the other hand, the Japanese never bothered with anti-submarine forces or the convoy system and, by the end of the war, Allied submarines had essentially run out of targets to sink.

You can’t pick and choose which enemy units in a space you attack.  If you attack one, you attack them all.  The only exception is when units of a power with which you are not at war also occupy the attacked sea zone.

@fanofbond:

The US is amphibious assaulting Korea and can the planes in japan scramble to kill the transports in the seazone.  The are no jap ships in the sea zone.

The scrambling fighters will defend the seazone, not the territory.

@Commando:

Krieghund, I’m confused. Do I have this right? If a transport accompanied by a cruiser, moves into a seazone w/an enemy sub, the cruiser stays in the seazone w/the enemy sub & asks if the enemy sub wants to fight or submerge but the transport moves out of the seazone(b/cuz it picked up an inf in the seazone & is on it’s way to invade an island in another seazone). The sub would get a “pot shot” at the transport?

Yes, because the transport is not escorted for its entire move.

@Commando:

What is the cruiser accompanied the transport on the whole journey?

Then the sub doesn’t get to fire.

@Commando:

Can the sub submerge(i.e. not fighting the cruiser) and still get the “pot shot” at the transport?

Yes.  The sub’s firing happens in the Combat Move phase, then the submerging happens in the Conduct Combat phase.

@Commando:

Also, have another question, this applies to A&A Pacific 1940. Let’s say the US has 1 BB, 1 AC, 1 CC, 1 DD & 2 Subs in SZ6 surrounding Japan. Japan attacks w/a whole bunch of air, 1 AC(brought along to absorb hits) & is also invading w/2 Transports loaded w/troops. The Jap players asks the US player if he wants his subs to fight or submerge. The US player says obviously fight b/cuz his subs can only hit the AC. At some point in the battle, all the US surface ships are gone, due to the Jap air, the Jap AC is gone but the US subs remain b/cuz no one could hit them. What happens next?

Can the Jap Trans ignore the subs?

No.  Subs can only be ingored during movement.  Once you attack them, you give up that option.

@Commando:

Do the Jap Trans automatically die?

Not unless they can’t retreat.  If they are able to retreat, they may do so.

@Commando:

Do the US Subs get one shot at the Jap Trans. I’m confused as to exactly what happens.

No.  Sub shots only occur during movement phases.  Retreats happen during the Conduct Combat phase.  The subs already had their chance during combat.

thanks

Ok
US turn 2
Japan isn’t at war with anyone, except China.
Japan has a transport in SZ 6, with no warships
The US moves their sub into this sea zone

Japan turn 3, they declare war
Does the US sub get to shoot immediately?
Does it get to shoot, if Japan attempts to move the transport?
Can Japan move a surface warship into the sea zone, stop the attack, then load and move the transport?

right, so he can destroy the xport, or bombard, but not both.

Uh-huh.