Yes… he said he was going to be away for like 2 weeks… but its been longer.
Good thing we are capable and willing to get the job done in these conditions. You know me i never quit untill the last rule is finished. Im totally committed to finishing this project till the end.
totally committed? really? I thought you were working on some map project :evil:
anyway we need your knowledge to position the rest of the neutrals
I would imagine most of the south Americans to be pro-Allies…but it seems Argentina was pro-Axis?
Afghanistan, Asia: 1 IPC, one infantry
Angola, Africa: 0 IPC
Argentina, South America: 2 IPC + 2 INF yes good
Eire, Europe: 0 IPC
Himalaya, Asia: 0 IPC
Mongolia, Asia: 1 IPC +1 infantry
Mozambique, Africa: 0 IPC
Peru, South America: 1 IPC + 1 infantry
Rio De Oro, Africa: 0 IPC owned by spain ( colony)
Sahara, Africa: 0 IPC
Saudi Arabia, Asia: 2 IPC
Spain, Europe: 4 IPC + 5 INF, 1 art, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 DD, 1 transport
Sweden, Europe: 2 IPC + 3 infantry, 1 art
Switzerland, Europe: 1 IPC+ 1 infantry
Turkey, Europe: 3 IPC + 4 infantry, 1 tank, 1 fighter,1 art
Venezuela, South America: 1 IPC+ 1 infantry
This is the list: ill edit it latter after more research
I would imagine most of the south Americans to be pro-Allies…but it seems Argentina was pro-Axis?
Brazil was actually led by a semi-dictator person and at the beginning of the war the leaned towards Germany. Germany started losing though so Brazil sent 25,000 men from their FEB to help the Allies.
As for starting units of neutral nations, I think Mongolia shouldn’t have units. Ireland or Eire should have some INF and ART (they had the IRA) and they favor Germany because they want to take N Ireland back from the British.
Saudi Arabia should have a couple of INF (and are you adding spc units? Cavalry is a good idea, the Polish, Russians, and Arabians used horses so they should have cavalry).
Spain is pro-Axis since Germans helped them during the Spanish Civil War, Argentina is too because they want to get Falklands from British. Sweden and Switz should be completely neutral though, especially Switz since even their flag (equilateral cross) is a symbol of peace and neutrality. Sweden also
adopted a policy of neutrality since the Napoleonic Wars, though their policy was armed neutrality (they created the Per Albin Line to defend against Germany).
Turkey is pro-Axis since the Ottoman Empire was crushed by Allies during the Great War.
According to the Operations manual some neutral territories are impassable for geographic reasons. Maybe adding upgrades that give your troops skis or mountain gear or desert equipment so they can capture the Sahara for example?
Link that might help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_Powers–countries that were sattelites to, helped, or conquered by Germany
Actually Gen Patch the Rationale behind having the Swiss Pro-Axis is not necessarily because they supported the Nazis but because they provided the Germans with War Materials at a cost which probably cost the Germans in the long run (Coal) but it still supported them none the less… I personally would have them have 85 Infantry, all of which roll at 5 with Sneak Attack (Because of Mountain Guerrilla Combat) but ofcourse that won’t fly… If you guys want a detailed info list of Diplomatic Relations between the Latin American and South American and The USA look at this:
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-WH-Frame/USA-WH-Frame-8.html
GG
Afghanistan, Asia: 1 IPC, one infantry zero neutral
Angola, Africa: 0 IPC +1 neutral
Argentina, South America: 2 IPC + 2 INF yes good
Eire, Europe: 0 IPC , 1 infantry +3 pro british
Himalaya, Asia: 0 IPC +1 neutral impassible except by planes
Mongolia, Asia: 1 IPC +1 infantry//// +1 – somewhat pro soviet
Mozambique, Africa: 0 IPC /// +1 neutral
Peru, South America: 1 IPC + 1 infantry /// +1 neutral
Rio De Oro, Africa: 0 IPC owned by spain ( colony) (same as spain)
Sahara, Africa: 0 IPC Vichy french -1 slightly leaning toward axis
Saudi Arabia, Asia: 2 IPC +1 pro UK
Spain, Europe: 4 IPC + 5 INF, 1 art, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 DD, 1 transport -2 neutral leaning toward germany
Sweden, Europe: 2 IPC + 3 infantry, 1 art -2 neutral leaning toward axis
Switzerland, Europe: 1 IPC+ 1 infantry -1 slight in axis but neutral Note: zero would be ok too
Turkey, Europe: 3 IPC + 4 infantry, 1 tank, 1 fighter,1 art -1 neutral leaning to axis
Venezuela, South America: 1 IPC+ 1 infantry +1 leaning allies
hehe Imperious you forgot to comment on their ideas on Eire and Mongolia…
I added them to the revised neutral list. comments noted.
umm what did you change? (I am compiling phase 2 at the moment)
I see Eire now has 1 INF. But their suggestion was that IRA is pro-Germany and anti-British…
Mongolia still has 1 INF though. So you don’t agree with that one?
Eire is +3 in uk 's camp
mongolia had a relative small army one infantry is generous… you think 2 infantry “looks” better? does it have to do with japans strategic advantage to attack them and gain one extra movement toward moscow by going thru them?
@Imperious:
Eire is +3 in uk 's camp
Why should Eire be pro-UK? The IRA hates British people
Yes but the rest of Ireland saw germany for what it was. IRA was a small part of possible pro-german attitude.
Mongolia would make a big advantage for Japan as a launching point into Russia, perhaps if you split it into 2 so that it would cost the same amount of movements to get to Yakut, placing 1 infantry on the Manchurian border.
WE cant make map changes like that… of course we can but the variant is made to be played with the existing map. No territories are to be altered or people will say its too different from what you are used to play. Id sooner make Mongolia have more forces or become impassible like Himalayans.
um no I thought we were thinking of reducing Mongolia’s military to 0 INF…
I think “Gen AlexanderPatch” sugguested that Mongolia’s military is too small.
anyone know about Mongolia?
actually why didn’t Japan just go through Mongolia in WWII?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Mongolian_Army
the reason was because it was pro soviet during WWII… Check this out… I say give it 1 Infantry, Pro Soviet…
GG
Okay so GG is right. But we should increase it to 2 INF, because if not the once Japan captures it and then it would march unopposed all the way to Moscow.
Not if there is some kind of Non Aggression Treaty in place… Remember this place is Pro Soviet, i.e. Soviet Territory… Plus considering the amount of men they had that is an accurate Representation… My way of Handling it?
Non Aggression Treaty
If Mongolia is invaded Russians place 3 Siberian Shock Troops and a tank there for free.
GG
@Guerrilla:
Non Aggression Treaty
If Mongolia is invaded Russians place 3 Siberian Shock Troops and a tank there for free.
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
“…However, Soviet Red Army troops in Mongolia amounted to little more than instructors for the native army…”
Yes but if it “was” invaded…
