AARHE: Phase 2: Neutrals

[Guerrilla Guy]

Actually Gen Patch the Rationale behind having the Swiss Pro-Axis is not necessarily because they supported the Nazis but because they provided the Germans with War Materials at a cost which probably cost the Germans in the long run (Coal) but it still supported them none the less… I personally would have them have 85 Infantry, all of which roll at 5 with Sneak Attack (Because of Mountain Guerrilla Combat) but ofcourse that won’t fly… If you guys want a detailed info list of Diplomatic Relations between the Latin American and South American and The USA look at this:

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-WH-Frame/USA-WH-Frame-8.html

GG

[Imperious Leader]

Afghanistan, Asia: 1 IPC, one infantry zero neutral
Angola, Africa: 0 IPC +1 neutral
Argentina, South America: 2 IPC + 2 INF  yes good
Eire, Europe: 0 IPC , 1 infantry  +3 pro british
Himalaya, Asia: 0 IPC    +1 neutral impassible except by planes
Mongolia, Asia: 1 IPC +1 infantry//// +1 – somewhat pro soviet
Mozambique, Africa: 0 IPC /// +1 neutral
Peru, South America: 1 IPC + 1 infantry /// +1 neutral
Rio De Oro, Africa: 0 IPC owned by spain ( colony) (same as spain)
Sahara, Africa: 0 IPC Vichy french -1 slightly leaning toward axis
Saudi Arabia, Asia: 2 IPC +1 pro UK
Spain, Europe: 4 IPC + 5 INF, 1 art, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 DD, 1 transport -2 neutral leaning toward germany
Sweden, Europe: 2 IPC + 3 infantry, 1 art  -2 neutral leaning toward axis
Switzerland, Europe: 1 IPC+ 1 infantry  -1 slight in axis but neutral  Note: zero would be ok too
Turkey, Europe: 3 IPC + 4 infantry, 1 tank, 1 fighter,1 art -1 neutral leaning to axis
Venezuela, South America: 1 IPC+ 1 infantry +1 leaning allies

[tekkyy]

hehe Imperious you forgot to comment on their ideas on Eire and Mongolia…

[Imperious Leader]

I added them to the revised neutral list. comments noted.

[tekkyy]

umm what did you change? (I am compiling phase 2 at the moment)

I see Eire now has 1 INF. But their suggestion was that IRA is pro-Germany and anti-British…

Mongolia still has 1 INF though. So you don’t agree with that one?

[Imperious Leader]

Eire is +3 in uk 's camp

mongolia had a relative small army one infantry is generous… you think 2 infantry “looks” better? does it have to do with japans strategic advantage to attack them and gain one extra movement toward moscow by going thru them?

[Gen AlexanderPatch]

@Imperious:

Eire is +3 in uk 's camp

Why should Eire be pro-UK? The IRA hates British people

[Imperious Leader]

Yes but the rest of Ireland saw germany for what it was. IRA was a small part of possible pro-german attitude.

[rawdawg]

Mongolia would make a big advantage for Japan as a launching point into Russia, perhaps if you split it into 2 so that it would cost the same amount of movements to get to Yakut, placing 1 infantry on the Manchurian border.

[Imperious Leader]

WE cant make map changes like that… of course we can but the variant is made to be played with the existing map. No territories are to be altered or people will say its too different from what you are used to play. Id sooner make Mongolia have more forces or become impassible like Himalayans.

[tekkyy]

um no I thought we were thinking of reducing Mongolia’s military to 0 INF…

I think “Gen AlexanderPatch” sugguested that Mongolia’s military is too small.

anyone know about Mongolia?

actually why didn’t Japan just go through Mongolia in WWII?

[Guerrilla Guy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Mongolian_Army

the reason was because it was pro soviet during WWII… Check this out… I say give it 1 Infantry, Pro Soviet…

GG

[Gen AlexanderPatch]

Okay so GG is right. But we should increase it to 2 INF, because if not the once Japan captures it and then it would march unopposed all the way to Moscow.

[Guerrilla Guy]

Not if there is some kind of Non Aggression Treaty in place… Remember this place is Pro Soviet, i.e. Soviet Territory… Plus considering the amount of men they had that is an accurate Representation… My way of Handling it?

Non Aggression Treaty
If Mongolia is invaded Russians place 3 Siberian Shock Troops and a tank there for free.

GG

[Gen AlexanderPatch]

@Guerrilla:

Non Aggression Treaty
If Mongolia is invaded Russians place 3 Siberian Shock Troops and a tank there for free.

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

“…However, Soviet Red Army troops in Mongolia amounted to little more than instructors for the native army…”

[Guerrilla Guy]

Yes but if it “was” invaded…

[Imperious Leader]

Lets just keep it at 2 inf and also impose a movement of 1 into mongolia due to poor terrain… that way tanks are at least stuck.

If you guys want we can add extra forces from Soviet stocks we can do something like OOB has under soviet-jap non aggression

[Guerrilla Guy]

Good Idea, but don’t you think we should do that to several territories?

GG

[Gen AlexanderPatch]

Nah. Some of them aren’t that crucial as Mongolia

[Imperious Leader]

well it does not hurt to hear him out… what do you think? currently movement restrictions to Mongolia, Himalayans, Sahara, possibly sinkaing-- due to desert, also alaska, argentina, switzerland, finland due to frozen/mountain  conditions?