USA not at war movement

@krieghund Thank you very much Krieghund. This makes sense…

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in When USA not at War:

@Marshmallow-of-War ANZAC DOW is not always dumb. Sometimes it allows a key ship block or prevents transports in disputed zones from picking up soldiers. I have seen it happen a handful of times.

Completely true! The ANZAC declaration following a UK Pacific ship move is a classic! I can’t imagine anyone taking issue with that.

However, you’re ignoring the second half of that…

It’s taking the Carolines after initiating a war that leaves the US out of the fight that is the issue, leaving the transports vulnerable and stripping defenses from ANZAC itself. I can’t imagine a scenario where that would be wise.

I think it comes down to a difference in style.

As Japan, I just expect from the start that I’ll leave that path open most of the time and plan accordingly (exceptions being turns where I am sending most of my force far away, like Calcutta).

@guy:

so im gonna backtrack to one of the original questions

is a NB in panama a worthy venture for US?
this way a fleet staged in sz64 (i think thats the #) can get to hawaii or sz91 off gib or to canada too

seems to leave the most options open for USA during early rounds, allowing for efficient redeployment of forces once axis intentions become a bit clearer

anyone use this?

I have never done it myself, but i have seen it a few times…From my experience, it is more useful in later rounds than in early rounds, when you want to be able to retake immediately Haw while keeping Gib under pressure.

Actually, if Japan invades FIC, it only costs them the $10 NO for peaceful relations with the United States.  It doesn’t bring the US into the war.

All those other things do however.  Also, if any territory in North America gets taken by the Axis, US can declare war.  Basically this means Canadian territories.

Welcome, legdog420!

Why would they wait, and miss out on all those juicy IPCs?  I can’t think of a reason.

At any rate, the US is eligible to declare war starting at the beginning of its third Collect Income phase.  If it fails to do so at that point, it may do so at the beginning of the Combat Move phase of any of its subsequent turns, just like everyone else.

Japan/Russia has no effect on UK/Anzac relations to Japan.
UK/Anzac can declare war on Japan “when they want” (so to speak)

Yea, I suppose it’s unlikely for allied units to be trekking across Russia. Still it is a bit odd that in the same round a Russian fighter can land on a US carrier in the Atlantic but not in the Pacific.

I guess the rule is the way it is in the interest of simplicity. It did sort out the whole Russia going to war with Japan in order to take neutrals in Europe thing.