1941 - Retreat movements question

About Axis and allies 1941
Much has been criticized about this version, and much of the criticism is correct, because it fails in its main premise: to be a gateway for new players.

-A manual that wastes a LOT of space, and does not include a complete developing of each face for a power as a example. It also does not include a glossary showing what the unit models are, such as if it is at the end of the 1940 manual. It does not include an IPC management table and industrial capacity, as if there were in 1940, for photocopying.
-There are no aid cards for players.
-And yes, there are not enough pieces to play optimally.
All this makes new people get a bad impression of the franchise, even asking, if the other versions have the same shortcomings. Now, videos say that there are missing pieces to play well, but they don’t say which ones or how many.

Those are my ideas:
How many more pieces should the edition have (or you need to add).
11 more gray chips
1 die
1 infantry and 1 destroyer, for USA
1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 transport, for Japan
1 submarine for Germany
1 USSR infantry
What pieces to subtract:
2 green chips
1 USSR submarine
2 USSR transports

If Zombies has money, I don’t understand why not 1941, which is supposed to be a more important issue, because it is introductory. They require:
18 CPI of 1
5 CPI of 5
5 CPI of 10

I would also add aeronautical movement counters, as in the revised edition:
4 of 1, 4 of 2, 2 of 3, 2 of 4

I tink a new production an sell cost increase, but now is in Amazon $18us, with those new pieces i believe, no more of $28us. ¿What do you think?

@Private:

And just to clarify yet further - the sub is not flying either! :-D

You obviously didn’t roll as well as I did during the Research phase…

Hiya Forum,

Here is a video I have created on youtube of the set up of AnA 1941. I hope it come to some help for you to enjoy the game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TY_ZuS8tcU

Enjoy!

BH

Okay.  Thanks for all your other help though.

Cheers
PP

I found it at Target for $18.00 US.  I wouldn’t pay anything over $25.00 for it and honestly that is pushing it.  When you open the box you will understand why.

@DarthShizNit:

Pfft what? If Russia is always falling on turn 3 you might just need to rework your strategy (don’t let the AI play as Russia). I’ve had games where Russia not only survived by thrived, pushing Germany back to the gates or Berlin. It’s all about knowing the ground, the battles to fight and those not to fight. Also, send more fighters from UK :D

yeah invade Norway with your 3 infantry in Karelia and then land your spitfires from England there lol. But i do find that i have to abandon Caucus, i’ve found a good strat is too attack the Ukraine and west Russia, then Germany has to send more troops to the eastern Front. And you should be planning an invasion of Europe to thin the Germans. Also if you have a few fighters and a bomber in Finland/Norway then you can directly bomb Germany.

@UtahJazzfan8:

Weather sucks here also. It’s been windy and rainy… probably in the mid 30s right now!!!  :-P

Thanks for the tips. I’m hoping to start my first game of A&A tomorrow after work.

2 feet of snow just dropped in a few hours here lol :P.

I wish you luck, I’m sure you’ll have fun.

@Most:

@Azrael:

@Gargantua:

I think they should have really looked at something like 1812 the invasion of canada to see how you can stream line something but still keep the theme/personality of the conflict.

So long as the white-house gets burned down, I’m game.

ironically neither the columbia games or academy games version of the war involved that territory .

Curious if either of those games were designed by Canadians or Brits. Surely if they were there would be a DC and a token for a flaming White House.

As to 41. My hard core group plays, at best, twice a month. I’m hoping to to play at least once a week with my kid with this new game.

academy games one is designed by canadians, columbia games has at least 1 american but gamma 2 games the original was a canadian company.

Having played both they play in less then 2 hours and the columbia games one can be finished in as quick as 30 minutes if the game goes sour for another player.  The key is that they are quick to set up and each tiny move is a month and after each year/winter you check for Victory points/conditions to declare a winner, I don’t know if that is possible with axis and allies/ww2 but I think they should have tinkered with the formula more to lower the playing time because 3hours on the short end is still a long time.