Allies (+16) vs. Axis (darkskies) Coop

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Politics - Russians
                Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                    Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied

    Purchase Units - Russians
                Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
                6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
                2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
                1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
                1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Turkmenistan
                2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
                3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
                2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
                2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
                3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
                2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
                1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
                3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
                2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
                1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia
                2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
                1 armour moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
                1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus

    Place Units - Russians
                3 infantry placed in Novgorod
                3 infantry placed in Ukraine
                6 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
                Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs total

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    Just for good sportsmanship:
    I’d say Japan can play a much better game than I did, but I think that would almost require a J2, or even a Jlater if Japan wants to play a more defensive game. Ofc Japan has a bit of an unfair advantage in knowing a JF is coming (which it normally would not know), which is one of the reasons why I picked a J1 in our last game but that doesn’t mean you must too.

    Do what you want, ofc., but don’t feel restricted to do a J1 again.
    It is also a good thing to see how the game really would developafter India falls (as opposed to only thinking it out). Worth a lot too.

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  • Arthur Bomber HarrisA

    I always assume a JF strategy, yet I still do a J1.  India still will fall on J3-5 depending on your response.  My goal is to force to opponent to spend more on containing Japan and spend less in Europe.  I think that you will find it more difficult than expected to contain Japan and recapture the critical money islands.

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    I certainly hope so!
    It will be a hot war in the Pacific.

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  • Arthur Bomber HarrisA

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Politics - Japanese
                Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
                Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Trigger Russians Allied Americans 5: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied

    Purchase Units - Japanese
                Japanese buy 3 transports; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

    Combat Move - Japanese
                Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttatchment attached to Japanese
                1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to 20 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
                2 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
                      Japanese take French Indo China from French
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
                1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
                      Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                      Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
                1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
                1 fighter moved from Formosa to 37 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Japan to 37 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
                1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
                1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 battleship moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
                1 bomber moved from Japan to 37 Sea Zone
                2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
                2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
                1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
                1 fighter moved from Korea to 35 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangtung
                1 battleship and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Korea to Amur
                      Japanese take Amur from Russians

    Combat - Japanese
                Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
                    British defend with 1 battleship
                    Japanese win, taking 37 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 bombers, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                    Casualties for British: 1 battleship
                Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 2 transports
                    Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                    Japanese win with 2 battleships, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Battle in Borneo
                Battle in Kwangtung
                    Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    British defend with 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Battle in Philippines
                    Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Battle in Hunan
                    Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                    Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
                Battle in Yunnan
                    Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Russians and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Americans and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for British and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for French and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Dutch and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Neutral_Allies and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1 activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians
                Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Olgiy
                Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Dzavhan
                Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Tsagaan Olom
                Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Central Mongolia
                Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Buyant-Uhaa
                Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Ulaanbaatar
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1 activates a trigger called: Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Olgiy
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Dzavhan
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Tsagaan Olom
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Central Mongolia
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Buyant-Uhaa
                Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Ulaanbaatar

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Cleaning up during movement phase
                EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
                1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
                3 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
                1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
                2 bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
                3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
                2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
                1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 carrier and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Kwangsi
                1 fighter moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Holland Belgium
                EDIT: 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Holland Belgium
                EDIT: 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Holland Belgium

    Place Units - Japanese
                1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
                2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Amur from Japanese to Russians
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Buyant-Uhaa from Russians to Neutral_True
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Ulaanbaatar from Russians to Neutral_True
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Central Mongolia from Russians to Mongolians
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Ulaanbaatar from Neutral_True to Mongolians
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Buyant-Uhaa from Neutral_True to Mongolians
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Dzavhan from Russians to Mongolians
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Tsagaan Olom from Russians to Mongolians
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Olgiy from Russians to Mongolians
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Mongolians to Ulaanbaatar: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Mongolians to Buyant-Uhaa: 2 infantry
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Mongolians to Dzavhan: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Mongolians to Olgiy: 2 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Olgiy: 2 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Dzavhan: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Ulaanbaatar: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Buyant-Uhaa: 2 infantry
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Japanese
                Japanese collect 41 PUs; end with 46 PUs total
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 35 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 43 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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  • Arthur Bomber HarrisA

    I was silly and thought that Russia DOW on Japan broke the Mongolian part.  I had to edit it back to revert them to neutrality.  Sorry about the messy edits.  I also fixed the German AA guns and moved them to protect the planes.

    Best of luck!

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    I can see it!
    Would you mind just to redo the Japanese turn?
    I know from experience that we will have unexpected things to happen with Mongolia otherwise…
    And our knowledge of the Mongolia-rules has already proven to be lacking.
    Editing Political relations will turn into a mess in TripleA. You can check what I mean by looking at the political table. Mongolia is listed there as ‘friendly’ to all allied powers, which is incorrect. The table can also be edited but as stated in the table, editing political relations will result in erratic behaviour.

    Best way to prevent a mess is just to not attack Amur, but I wouldn’t know another way to skip that action but a redo.

    It will most likely take quite a while before I can do my turns, since I have things to do tomorrow and it is too late for me now to do the ‘three in a row’.

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  • Arthur Bomber HarrisA

    Let’s just turn Mongolia into Russians in the rare case that I actually do attack Amur later on.

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    It’s not just Amur, it is also the difference between (failed) attacks and NCM moves into areas that other powers took (instead of Japan or Russia), any other areas that Russia can loose late in the game and a lot of other dynamics…

    … We will need to keep track of at least the following:

    • Mongolia will be Russia if Japan attacks any Russian territory (or just Russian units) adjacent to Mongolia and we will need to manually do this (repeat all the edits you did in reverse order).
    • Mongolia will never be pro-axis, but can become pro-allied if other neutrals join the allies. Since Mongolia already turned pro-allies by Japan’s actions, we (hopefully) won’t need to do any editing for this.

    Anyway, whatever. I’ll do my allied turns very late today. I haven’t yet checked the save, but the opening J1 is easy to picture in my head. If I play the allies there agressively, Japan has a major problem with a shortage of land units at the front and will have to sacrifice a lot of planes as a result to get to Calcutta. Unless, perhaps, if the allies got diced in the opening battles? I did took a very quick look at the dice mails this morning and I saw at least the UK BB failed to score a hit but the results of rest of the battles eluded me. But only that BB missing or hitting, already is a painful blow to the receiving side. If it hits, Japan must loose either a very valuable (for the late game against the USA) plane, or its (blocking) CA. The opening battles have too much influence on the rest of the game, if you ask me.

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  • Arthur Bomber HarrisA

    With low luck the opening rolls are less important.  The main one is the sinking of the BB which costs a fighter on a hit.  I need the cruiser for blocking the British fleet from retaking FIC.  Either way, there are 6 loaded transports + >20 planes that can hit India somewhere between J3-J5.  India will only have ~20 infantry + 3AA + 3 planes. Japan will lose a few planes, but at an income of ~80 PUs will be able to rebuild quickly.  It is a rough start for the Allies in the Pacific when Japan is aggressive.

    It appears that I forgot to Non-com move my 3Inf+art from Kiangsu to Anhwe.  Could I trouble you to make that move before China goes?  It is so hard to remember all of the intricate moves required for a great J1!

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    Back a little earlier than expected.

    I’ll move your units to Ahnwe, no problem. IF I can think about it during my turn ;-).

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Politics - British
                Trigger British Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians

    Purchase Units - British
                British buy 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
                UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - British
                1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Burma to 37 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from India to 37 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from India to 37 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
                1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Tobruk
                1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 106 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Scotland to 110 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tobruk

    Combat - British
                Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                    British attack with 2 fighters
                    Germans defend with 1 battleship
                    British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship
                    Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                    British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                    Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
                    British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 39
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                    British attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Japanese defend with 1 cruiser
                    British win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser
                    Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                    British attack with 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 transport
                    Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    British win with 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Battle in Tobruk
                    British attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                    Italians defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                    British win, taking Tobruk from Italians with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                    Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                    British attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                    Germans defend with 2 submarines
                    British win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                    Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines

    Non Combat Move - British
                1 fighter moved from 106 Sea Zone to New Brunswick Nova Scotia
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
                1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire
                      British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
                2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta
                1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta
                1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
                1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
                1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                      UK_Pacific take Java from Dutch
                1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Burma
                3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from India to Burma
                1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
                      British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies
                1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
                1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
                1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
                1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
                1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Gibraltar

    Place Units - British
                2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
                British collect 28 PUs; end with 30 PUs total
                Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
                3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
                UK_Pacific collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total
                Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    Regarding LL, you are right ofc about the big battles.
    Smaller battles such as attacking the Prince of Wales (Prince of Whales? :lol:), as well as much other smaller battles particularly in the opening turn are a different story…

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  • Arthur Bomber HarrisA

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
                Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Italians
                1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
                      Italians take Kenya from British
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                      Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British

    Combat - Italians
                Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                    Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
                    British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                    Italians win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
                    Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
                Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                    Italians attack with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                    British defend with 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                    Italians win with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                    Casualties for British: 1 cruiser and 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - Italians
                1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
                1 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria
                      Italians take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
                1 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria
                1 armour moved from Albania to Bulgaria
                1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Bulgaria
                2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia

    Place Units - Italians
                1 fighter placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
                Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2
                Italians collect 12 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 12 PUs total

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 1

    Politics - French
                Trigger French Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians

    Combat Move - French
                1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France

    Combat - French
                Battle in Southern France
                    French attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 mech_infantrys
                    Germans win with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                    Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                    French attack with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                    Italians defend with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                    French win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - French
                1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
                1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa
                1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
                1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Algeria

    Turn Complete - French

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    Little deliberation:
    I think I will have to redo the first allied turns (USA, CHI, UK). I don’t know how you see this situation, but I see Germany air-blitzing both Egypt AND Tobruk now, wich will deliver Egypt into the Italian lap. Nothing the UK can do about that. I could hope for a little luck costing Germany 4 aircraft for the Blitz, but I don’t want to base my/any strategy on luck. besides, I don’t think loosing 4air will give Germany enough problems in Russia, ultimately. So -> Game over.

    The UK can prevent this by also taking out Ethiopia. As I said, I don’t want to base my strategy on luck, so that’s going to cost somewhere else. If you want to rule out game-loosing luck with the UK in Africa (with LL anyway), they need 1 or two FTR from London to assist in #97 to free up forces that can attack Ethiopia, or they need the TRS from India attacking Ethiopia. Or even a bit of both…
    I am no big fan of using and loosing both the London FTR only to replace it with 2 new FTR since it leaves London wide open for SL. We know in our playtest that SL is not going to happen, but in a normal game you don’t know that. Testing a strategy that does not consider a certain option defeats the purpose of the testing…
    Weakening India comes with a well-known price as well, but Egypt must be held and therefore Ethiopia must be attacked as well. If the choice is India or Egypt, India must be weakened. If the choice is building 9INF in London (because the two FTR end up in #97 and will be lost permanently) or loose Egypt, 9INF it is then. What is your say in all this?

    Anyway, therefore I want to roll back to US1. Ethiopia must be taken, even if this weakens India and/or means that London can only produce 9INF because they fly-and-loose their 2FTR into #97… I hope I can do it with only the 2FTR from London and leave India in the position it is in right now, but I remember you did it in our previous playtest with only those ‘2 from London’ and the attack in Ethiopia could easily have gone wrong -> problems for Egypt, and I don’t want that.

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    Just for the record (no need to discuss this), I just want to mention it. But feel free to respond if anything useful can be said:
    I am trying out the 100% agressive options for the UK in Africa. I am usually much more conservative (defensive) around Egypt and I know the merits of that already, but maybe that is due to the fact that I usually play bidless, I don’t know.
    So far I must conclude that the agressive UK approach still looks dangerous for the allies, even with this +20 bid because it will leave Egypt practically empty!
    I definately see ways for the UK to prevent disaster (a long term occupation of Egypt by Italy) but I also see a lot of danger from Germany and Italy still, so I’ll have to see a couple of turns after the roll back. A lot still depends too much on the outcome of the opening battles.

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  • Arthur Bomber HarrisA

    Let’s keep playing the way it is now.  I will skip the potential Egypt attack for another round, giving you enough time to rearrange your Attacking Ethiopia and Tobruk is a good strategy for UK1 and prevents Italy from ever recovering in Africa.

    Please do put more forces in London next round.  I could SL this round with a high chance of winning, using just my single transport.  I really don’t want to be testing out that strategy in this game.  Nevertheless, it would be unfair for the UK of having the advantage of not needing as many PUs spent in London.

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  • Arthur Bomber HarrisA

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 2

    Politics - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
                Germans buy 1 armour, 3 bombers and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Germans
                1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
                      Germans take Normandy Bordeaux from French
                1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 91 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to 96 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
                Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                    Germans attack with 1 bomber
                    British defend with 1 transport
                    Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for British: 1 transport
                Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                    Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                    French defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                    Casualties for French: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Germans
                1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
                1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
                2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy
                3 bombers moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
                2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to Southern France
                3 armour, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
                3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                3 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
                5 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Germany
                1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
                1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
                2 artilleries moved from France to Western Germany
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
                1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Germans
                3 bombers placed in Western Germany
                1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
                Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs total
                Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
                Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

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  • ItIsILeClercI

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 2

    Politics - Russians
                Trigger Russians Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians

    Purchase Units - Russians
                Russians buy 9 artilleries; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

    Combat Move - Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
                2 aaGuns and 18 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
                8 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
                1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
                3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
                2 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
                6 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
                2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk
                1 armour moved from Bryansk to Belarus
                1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Russians
                9 artilleries placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
                Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 39 PUs total

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