It think Italy being at war should be delayed at least until their first turn, or they are attacked.
Something can be considered with Turqy regarding the Goeben incident; not getting the 2 BBs Britain had built for it really pissed off the Turqs, but the gift of 2 modern cruisers from Germany swung them into joining the war.
So start off with: no Turqish navy; but 2 German cruisers in the med. These can choose to sail to Constantinople, then on T1 can be converted to Turqish units. This can be integrated into my suggestion that Turqy can produce no mechanical units, just convert those delivered to their capital.
It also prevents these ships being sunk by the Russia-France-Britain naval triple attack that I’m sure will finish them before T1 in most games.
Of course the German player might choose to use the ships instead to attack the French navy and try stopping it shipping north African units to France…
Flashman, why do you keep saying ‘Turqy’? Is that what it is supposed to be or is it a British English spelling or what? Always been ‘Turkey’ to me.
Flashman, why do you keep saying ‘Turqy’? Is that what it is supposed to be or is it a British English spelling or what? Always been ‘Turkey’ to me.
He’s poking fun at the fact that Turkey has the color turquoise in this game.
Flashman, why do you keep saying ‘Turqy’? Is that what it is supposed to be or is it a British English spelling or what? Always been ‘Turkey’ to me.
He’s poking fun at the fact that Turkey has the color turquoise in this game.
Fair enough.
The most even alternative would probably be switching Italy and the Ottoman Empire.
Remember that ITALY was actually a member of the Central Powers in 1914. It would be interesting if the Italian player stayed Neutral for the first two turns then decided which alliance to join. Could be an interesting change up!
Of course, USA would most likely then have to join the Entente immediately following.
Interesting Historical Point: There was a secret protocol in the Central Powers Alliance, that Italy would join a war as long as it did not involve Great Britain. It was the British decision to support France that lead to Italy declaring neutrality in 1914. They only joined later to try and gain advantage over Austria and claim some disputed border territories.
Remember that ITALY was actually a member of the Central Powers in 1914.Â
Actually, Italy was a member of the Triple Alliance, not the Central Powers. The Triple Alliance and the Triple Entente were the pre-war alliances; the Central Powers and the Allied Powers were the actual blocks of WWI combatants (which didn’t precisely match the membership of the two treaty groups).
Interesting Historical Point: There was a secret protocol in the Central Powers Alliance, that Italy would join a war as long as it did not involve Great Britain. It was the British decision to support France that lead to Italy declaring neutrality in 1914. They only joined later to try and gain advantage over Austria and claim some disputed border territories.
Sound like an interesting read, may I ask where you heard this? I had read that the reason Italy didn’t join the Central Powers was because the Triple Alliance pact was founded upon the
idea of mutual defense. When Germany and Austria-Hungary approached Italy about getting into the war, Italy said that because Austria-Hungary was the one who declared war on Serbia
that it was an offensive war that did not apply to the Triple Alliance pact. Italy had also had some falling out with Germany and Austria-Hungary during the Italo-Turkish War as Germany in
particular was trying to get the Ottomans into their camp, plus Italy and Austria had a long rivalry with each other over the Italian speaking portions of the Austro-Hungarian empire.
Dont forget that Italy also had a secret pact with France which limited any chance of an Italian attack on French soil (although I dont think any pact was water tight).
Britain joining on the CP side would at least ‘shake’ up the battle for Africa. In fact even Italy joining the CP would make it a little more interesting.
Flashman, why do you keep saying ‘Turqy’? Is that what it is supposed to be or is it a British English spelling or what? Always been ‘Turkey’ to me.
He’s poking fun at the fact that Turkey has the color turquoise in this game.
…the word turquoise, which dates to the 16th century, is derived from an Old French word for ‘Turkish’, because the mineral was first brought to Europe from Turkey, from the mines in historical Khorasan Province of Iran.
BOOOOM! Historical basis for them being turquoise.
