Changes from OOB to Alpha +.2

Pretty nice buddy, good job!

@Rednalyn:

USA moves up before UK, so you get:

1. Germany
2. Soviet Union
3. United States
4. United Kingdom
5. Italy
6. France

This is a even worst turn order than in Global Alpha. It was enough bad in that game, but at least it has the virtue of preventing can openers against Japan. In E40, simply is unnecesary and pretty annoying: it doesn’t mean the all Axis-all Allies that someone want (I not) and yet it makes long delays for PBEM game. This single reason, the turn order, is enough to me to say that I’m not going to play the alpha series in all my life (the useless french turn is the bigger pain for PBEM games) why don’t let play USA+France togheter as it was good in OOB? On the other side, 3 consecutive big powers are more that I can play in a lone row, even 1 to 1 face to face

OOB was way superior in this particular issue: one big power + 1 or 2 minor powers consecutive … it cannot be another way, and to prevent can openers (not really needed because ANZAC before USA meant coordination issues that balanced the can opener), just the turn order for G40 should be:

1 Germany
2 USSR
3 Japan
4 UK
5 China
6 Italy
7 USA
8 ANZAC
9 France

Can opener solved (I’d put China before Japan but I can live this way), and PBEM game is not damaged

This is getting absurd.  now we are even changing the turn order?  Changing major flaws (such as the minor IC in Germany and Japan having 28 planes) is one thing, constantly switching national objectives and the games turn order is something else.  Simple is always better and the simplest way to make the game balanced is to follow the alpha 2 set up changes to Germany and Japan and ignore the other crap.  Or, just find your own way to make Germany stronger and Japan weaker.  I am a hardcore Axis and Allies fan/player and i can’t even keep up with the freaking changes to the game.

@Krieghund:

@Rednalyn:

National objectives by Country (I think these goes instead of the OOB NO’s, but Kriegshound may clarify this):

Yup.

@Rednalyn:

(4. Collect 5 IPC per turn for being at war with Germany. Theme “Lend Lease agreement”) - is this NO a real one, or am I just making it up in my mind? Kriegshound, please clarify :)

You made this one up all by yourself.

WHAT! I DIDN"T Krieghund WAS ON THIS FORUM! COOL!

@Pherman1215:

This is getting absurd.  now we are even changing the turn order?  Changing major flaws (such as the minor IC in Germany and Japan having 28 planes) is one thing, constantly switching national objectives and the games turn order is something else.  Simple is always better and the simplest way to make the game balanced is to follow the alpha 2 set up changes to Germany and Japan and ignore the other crap.  Or, just find your own way to make Germany stronger and Japan weaker.  I am a hardcore Axis and Allies fan/player and i can’t even keep up with the freaking changes to the game.

Actually, I think that the minor IC for East Germany is good, but I agree that Japan has too much planes. Also, I miss old days when one bought things and the things were complete

Does the turn order remain with the US going before the UK or has that been rescinded?

I was under the impression Alpha 2+ was:

Germany
Russia
UK
Italy
US
France

Kreighund?

The turn order listed at the top of the thread is correct.

Hi Guys,

I see in the changes listed above that the USSR gets +9 IPC. I have reviewed the alpha+2 rules, as posted by Larry, and I haven’t been able to see that anywhere. I presume it is my mistake.

Is it a one of +9IPC in the begining of the game, or are some territories just worth more, or might it be a mistake in this post?

The rules posted by Larry are for the Global game only.  What’s posted here is the “best guess” of what the rules for Europe will look like based on those changes.  It is unofficial at this point.