M7574 & EM (axis) vs Anchovy & moulinex (allies) G40 alpha +2

very nice playing a game with you.

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@DoManMacgee

Yes, I think OOB Europe is imbalanced in many ways. After the right strategy became apparent, so far I have only lost 1 game as Germany with OOB rules out of 13 games in total, and that loss was mainly caused by a combination of surprise (my opponent put 4 infantry in Bessarabia and I had never faced that bid before) and terrible dice.

Let’s play with the balance. Right now I am testing with Ragnell and TGC with an additional German infantry removed from Romania, not sure if you have tried that out before but it seems to have a positive effect on the balance.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 3 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 fighter, 9 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 122 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Malta 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 6 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania 5 infantry moved from Germany to Poland Combat - Germans Battle in 122 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 122 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 bombers in 122 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 122 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 122 Sea Zone Germans win, taking 122 Sea Zone from British with 2 bombers and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers moved from 122 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway 2 aaGuns moved from Germany to Poland Place Units - Germans 1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany 9 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0.33 British regular : -0.33

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41359 Classic Round 05 - Russia.tsvg

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Russia to Novosibirsk Russians take Novosibirsk from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R. 1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Kazakh S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Persia 1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Persia 2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Russians Battle in Persia Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Persia, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Persia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Persia, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Persia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Persia, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Persia, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Persia Russians win, taking Persia from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Kazakh S.S.R. Russians attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R. Russians win, taking Kazakh S.S.R. from Japanese with 1 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Persia to Karelia S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R. Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R. Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -2,00 Germans regular : -1,00 Russians regular : -0,67

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 28 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Central United States to Western United States 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 27 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 24 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 infantry placed in Central United States 1 fighter placed in Western United States 1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 battleship placed in 104 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 4 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Hunan Combat - Chinese Battle in Hunan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan 1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Szechwan 3 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 4 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Szechwan Place Units - Chinese 4 artilleries placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China UK_Pacific take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from 74 Sea Zone to Kenya 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 83 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Egypt to Alexandria British take Alexandria from Italians 1 armour moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Kenya 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 83 Sea Zone to Kenya 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to Kenya 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Ethiopia British take Ethiopia from Italians 1 fighter moved from Quebec to 126 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Iceland to 126 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 126 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in Kenya British attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Kenya, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber in Kenya, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kenya 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 3 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kenya British win, taking Kenya from Italians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Battle in 126 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber and 3 fighters Germans defend with 1 battleship British roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in 126 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 126 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in 126 Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters moved from 126 Sea Zone to Scotland 1 bomber moved from 126 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 126 Sea Zone to Iceland 2 aaGuns and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland EDIT: 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to Eastern United States 1 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Southern Persia British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kenya to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Kenya to 83 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 2 infantry moved from Burma to 39 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State Place Units - British 1 factory_minor placed in Egypt 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 31 PUs; end with 32 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 artilleries and 4 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.67 Italians regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -0.67 British regular : -0.67

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 12 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Russians Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Chile Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Argentina Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Venezuela Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Sweden Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Switzerland Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Northern Spain Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Southern Spain Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Portugal Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Eastern Turkey Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Western Turkey Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Saudi Arabia Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Afghanistan Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Mozambique Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Angola Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Tibet Trigger Russians Friendly TrueNeutral: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral Trigger Russians Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians Combat Move - Russians 1 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk Russians take Bryansk from Italians 1 armour moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 armour moved from Russia to Yaroslavl Russians take Yaroslavl from Italians 1 armour moved from Yaroslavl to Russia 1 armour moved from Stalingrad to Rostov Russians take Rostov from Germans 1 armour moved from Rostov to Stalingrad 1 tactical_bomber moved from Stalingrad to Russia Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 11 infantry moved from Samara to Stalingrad Place Units - Russians 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Stalingrad 9 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 34 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 36 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 38 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Iwo Jima: 5 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Midway: 5 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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