New Year's Resolution for all the Larry Lobbyists

from your post it sounds like the Italian navy situation has a big impact on the game, which even one more plane in UK would have a big impact on in turn.

Exactly. But that’s why I think it’s important to be able to explore the various strategies and opening gambits a few times before tweaking it further. Maybe that bomber is too much, but maybe using it down there costs the Brits elsewhere. The point being, is that no one can reasonably tell after just a game or two and given the investment in time (and space) Global takes, it’s very unlikely that there will be consensus feedback any time in the near future.

So changing/tweaking/massaging the start-ups every few weeks greatly reduces the chances of actually knowing if the PREVIOUS set-up was balanced or not.

Caveat:
If Larry Harris is under some form of a timetable for a 2nd printing or something, then by all means the changes have to come fast and furious. But barring that, I’d say it’s time to let it bake for a while IMO.

Larry’s focus should be to COMPLETE the FAQ and changes to his game.  Not to continue IMPROVING it.

That’s what he has to get his head around.  Pre-season is OVER, it’s Race Day,  decide what there is to decide now, put gas in the car and go.  The constant process of “improving” something, prevents the final process of “completing” something.  Everyone is sick of change after change, the ruleset is close enough,

Han Solo says it best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bSefSLaPFs

I am with Gargantua on this.  If the original setup and/or rules are seen to have errors, then yes there should be some changes made.  However, get ideas and do a little testing then come out with some sort of change.  We have had 5 different setups in the past month.  I barely got through a game of Alpha when suddenly there is an Alpha +.  I haven’t even tried Alpha + and there has been 3 more changes since.  Get it finalized first then offer it up to us.

Yea, and instead of

Alpha
Alpha +
Alpha +.1
Alpha +.2
Alpha +.2a

Just call it

Beta
Ceta
Delta
Echo
Foxtrot
Gamma

etc  Get it done!

Nobody is forcing anyone to play the latest version. Pick the one you like best and go with that, but here’s to all of you for showing interest in the game.

Here’s to Larry for standing behind his brainchild.

All the best in 2011!

@inverted:

Nobody is forcing anyone to play the latest version. Pick the one you like best and go with that, but here’s to all of you for showing interest in the game.

Here’s to Larry for standing behind his brainchild.

All the best in 2011!

Cheers for a great game and to all who have stood by it.

@Navybrat:

Larry has designed a great game- but to play it now you have to ask someone “what setup are we playing”.  All I am saying is that the time for a decison is here.

Here’s the thing. Europe 1940 only came out in August, so that’s the first time the general public has been capable of playing the Global 1940 format. Compared to the Classic board there is twice as many territories and unit types, the game is not the same at all. As far as I know even the Anniversary edition doesn’t have as many territories as this one, there’s new playable countries, new units(?) and I’m rather positive there are other revisions to the rules as well.

Now look at a game such as StarCraft, released in 1998. This is a real-time strategy in which a multiplayer game can take anywhere between 11 and 45 minutes (vice A&A’s several hours), and there’s no setup time to consider. You also have millions of people playing this game, some 20+ games per day. Even with all these advantages that game was NOT balanced in a matter of months, it took years of regular patching and an extremely talented PROFESSIONAL TEAM of experienced developers (not just a few people as in Larry’s situation, and playtesters, though important, are not experienced professional developers, I’m sorry).

Perhaps instead of criticizing Larry and Co for not leaving us to the mercy of the OOB ruleset you should praise him for trying. He does not have to do this for us, he’s a made man.

Or like I said before, pretend this community does not exist and live blissfully ignorant with the extremely shite printed manual.

^
Why did you quote yourself?

Huh? My post wasn’t directed at you.

@calvinhobbesliker:

^
Why did you quote yourself?

NY hangover misclick, it’s gone no?

@Gargantua:

Yea, and instead of

Alpha
Alpha +
Alpha +.1
Alpha +.2
Alpha +.2a

Just call it

Beta
Ceta
Delta
Echo
Foxtrot
Gamma

etc  Get it done!

I believe the correct NATO Phonetic Alphabet designations are:
NATO Letter  phonetic letter
A Alpha
B Bravo
C Charlie
D Delta
E Echo
F Foxtrot
G Golf
H Hotel
I India
J Juliet
K Kilo
L Lima
M Mike
N November
O Oscar
P Papa
Q Quebec
R Romeo
S Sierra
T Tango
U Uniform
V Victor
W Whiskey
X X-ray
Y Yankee
Z Zulu

I don’t even think Ceta is a word

@calvinhobbesliker:

I don’t even think Ceta is a word

No it is not, Ceti is and SATA is an acronym :-D

Those were the designations from X-wing.  Alpha Beta Ceta etc are greek designations.

It doesn’t really matter, the point was that the setups should have different names, instead of + - . 1 2 3 revisions numbers, since they are inherently different.

Which comes first? Alpha + or - .1?

There is no greek letter called ceta.

Alright kids just kiss and have makeup sex then get back on topic please.

Wait, don’t… I already put an end to this discussion quite effectively.

Those were the designations from X-wing

So that I may quote myself.

http://mymemory.translated.net/t/Serbian/Greek/ceta

Yes there is a designation ceta, and it is a word.  I never said it was a letter.

It is also the name of the name of the mountain Hercules climbs, builds an altar on, and burns himself to death at.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=uUPhhcdSACQC&pg=PA569&lpg=PA569&dq=ceta+greek&source=bl&ots=XioPCmY13v&sig=EeDaNznSVmo6fyaYDLAuy4VNBjE&hl=en&ei=sy0hTbzkDIuusAOXiaWwAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=ceta greek&f=false

So beat it punks.  And tell Larry to get his sht show together.

AA1942 was a finished rulebook. Everything was clear.

Now the game is evolving with air and naval bases, scramble, sneakattack, kamikase, new rules for neutrals, new canals, new tac bombers, new light infantry, new dog fights…

This is good, the game is evolving.

**Lets start thinking about:

• tech trees specific to each power

• fuel, amunition, food to supply to troops and warcraft**