FMG GERMAN pieces

@knp7765:

Hey moralecheck,
Thanks for the correction on the 75mm.  Like I said, I’m not really up on the different artillery pieces.  I do agree with you that we should have an artillery piece that is a “true” artillery and not an anti-tank or anti-aircraft gun.

The reason I picked the Hummel was because I thought that’s how FMG was going to make the two different armor sculpts for each country:  1 tank and 1 self-propelled artillery.  Or was that just the case for Italy because they didn’t have a large tank selection?

I didn’t realize the WOTC cruiser was the Admiral Hipper class.  They didn’t say in the rulebook and it looks different from my War At Sea Admiral Hipper and Prinz Eugen cruisers.  It was by using my WAS pieces that I figured out the British cruiser was the County Class.

Well, in that case, maybe the FMG German Cruiser could be one of the Deutschland Class Pocket Battleships (Graf Spee, Deutschland/Lutzow, Admiral Scheer).  Those could be considered heavy cruisers I think.

The Italians got 1 tank and 1 assault gun.  It would be like giving the germans a Stug III (which would be cool as well).  Pocket battleships would be an excellent choice for a heavy cruiser.

Yeah, I think it would have been cool if the Germans got the Panzer IV tank and the Stug III assault gun (in keeping with the Italian tank/assualt gun combo), but I am more than happy with the Panzer III tank and whatever the Germans get for their 2nd Tank - hopefully the Tiger I.

@FieldMarshalGames:

@Johnson73:

@reloader-1:

By country.

If FMG tries to slice and dice too much, there is too much work involved.

I can appreciate that however I can not afford to spend $40 per country?

If they package individually then they can offer lower prices which will attract more buyers, therefore in theory selling more product.

In theory yes, in practice we still have to produce FULL SETS so we would be stuck with TONS of odd pcs with no way of recouping the investment on them.  This is a community project with no possible return on investment until all sets are complete. (Sales of one fund the next) So if you don’t want to see Germany… Don’t buy Italy.

wishful thinking on my part.  I will still buy the finished product.

I’ll be there for each set!

No worries FMG we will make this happen for you!

Panzer III and Tiger 1 sounds like the best combo to me. I would love that.

for me i’ll be cool with the stug and either the tiger or king tiger

@Lunarwolf:

for me i’ll be cool with the stug and either the tiger or king tiger

But not together with Panzer III, since they’re both on the same chassis. Kind of boring. But I’d be ok with Stug III and Tiger 1. Please no King Tiger. Not as iconic nor as cool as the Tiger.

@Raeder:

@Lunarwolf:

for me i’ll be cool with the stug and either the tiger or king tiger

But not together with Panzer III, since they’re both on the same chassis. Kind of boring. But I’d be ok with Stug III and Tiger 1. Please no King Tiger. Not as iconic nor as cool as the Tiger.

I think the King Tiger was a very cool tank, but you are right that it isn’t as iconic as the Tiger I.  The King Tiger came out too late in the war.  I think the first time they were used in force was during the Battle of the Bulge in December of 1944.  Also, it was a heavy tank which really outclassed most Allied tanks.  If they woulc have come earlier in the war, it might have really changed the outcome of some of the big tank battles.

I still think it would be cool if FMG came out with a Heavy Tank set for all nations after all the country sets are complete.

@knp7765:

@Raeder:

@Lunarwolf:

for me i’ll be cool with the stug and either the tiger or king tiger

But not together with Panzer III, since they’re both on the same chassis. Kind of boring. But I’d be ok with Stug III and Tiger 1. Please no King Tiger. Not as iconic nor as cool as the Tiger.

I think the King Tiger was a very cool tank, but you are right that it isn’t as iconic as the Tiger I.  The King Tiger came out too late in the war.  I think the first time they were used in force was during the Battle of the Bulge in December of 1944.  Also, it was a heavy tank which really outclassed most Allied tanks.  If they woulc have come earlier in the war, it might have really changed the outcome of some of the big tank battles.

I still think it would be cool if FMG came out with a Heavy Tank set for all nations after all the country sets are complete.

The british had the bad luck of encountering Tiger IIs in July 44.  There were 450 or so made over the course of the last year of the war.  Spread out on three fronts, it was a rare sight. There were about 1,300 tiger I’s made and they were around for almost half the war.  Production was halted in Oct 44 when all but one factory that made them had switched to Tiger II production.  The last factory that was supposed to keep making them was hit by US bombers.  The much slower Tiger II was a bad idea when allied planes ruled the battlefield.  To slow to get away, too big to hide.  They’d have been wiser to focus production on the Panther.

Just for fun some alternatives- truck-one of the Maultiers,Fighter-He100(might have entered service,but they wanted Heinkel to concentrate on bombers),Odin-proposed CV/BB
hybrid(Z plan),coastal u boat,sdkfz 7,etc.

@knp7765:

I still think it would be cool if FMG came out with a Heavy Tank set for all nations after all the country sets are complete.

Exactly. There is no reason why FMG should stop making models. They’re doing a phenomenal job at it.

Hear hear! With Self-propelled artillery as well!

I would have preferred a Panzer IV over a Panzer III, for the reasons stated previously by myself; however, the Panzer III is a respectable and logical choice too, and appears to have garnered approval in this community at least. I think it will be fine.

For the second tank, I would still prefer a Tiger I. Iconic, produced and used in significant numbers, visually different from the Panzer III, different choice from the WoTC OOB Panther, and a popular choice within this community - seems like an appropriate choice to me.

@ FMG - Any confirmation as to which Panzer III variant will be represented by your sculpt? An early Ausf. A-D variant, or one of the later variants? Personally, I would choose a E/F variant, but I do admit that most Panzer III variants would look very similar at this scale.

For me the Panzer IV is the best representation of german medium tanks
Number panzer III all version 5728
Number panzer IV all version 8870

compared with the Panther (Wotc) 3054 all version…

@AG124:

@ FMG - Any confirmation as to which Panzer III variant will be represented by your sculpt? An early Ausf. A-D variant, or one of the later variants? Personally, I would choose a E/F variant, but I do admit that most Panzer III variants would look very similar at this scale.

I hope they use the version with the long barrel.  I can’t remember which variants they were, but some of the early variants had little short-barreled guns.  Same thing with early versions of the Panzer IV.  To me, those just don’t look right.

Panzer III, ausf. L:

http://www.tmbg.nl/PanzerIII.jpg

@Raeder:

Panzer III, ausf. L:

http://www.tmbg.nl/PanzerIII.jpg

Ah, yes.  That one looks perfect.  I hope we get those.

For me the Panzer IV is the best representation of german medium tanks
Number panzer III all version 5728
Number panzer IV all version 8870

compared with the Panther (Wotc) 3054 all version…

I think it was closer to 6,000, but nevertheless, you’re point is well taken.  I agree that the Panver IV would be the most logical choice, but I’m quite willing to accept the Panzer III.

Ironically it was originally the Panzer III that was intended for tank-on-tank battles, whereas the Panzer IV, with a low-velocity 75mm gun was designed for infantry support.  While that low-velocity guns wasn’t a great tank-killer, being built around a larger caliber made the Panzer IV more “upgradeable,” which is why it lasted until the end of the war.

Panzer III is the best.

Love the Panzer III as well