Re: Field Marshal Games Pieces Project Discussion thread

@dabapic:

@ithkrall:

@Imperious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.79

this should be Italian bomber

If you want to set up prepay, im ready as soon as you are.

Seconded, on both bomber and prepaying a set of italians.

That is an awesome looking bomber! great job Imperious Leader, Thank you FMG!

Having a picture of the bomber is one thing.  I need a sculpt for it.  Does anyone have a small model of an Italian bomber they would be willing to part with for the project?

Just my suggestions for models of the nations besides italy. I dont know alot of ship classes so i didn’t do naval stuff.

Soviet Union
Infantry 1: Throwing molotov-cocktail
Infantry 2: Helmetless with mosin-nagant
Artllery: Katyusha BM-13
Mech: T-60( Russia didn’t have any haftracks cept the ones the US gave it so a light tank is best)
Tank 1: KV-1
Tank 2: JS-2
Fighter: Ilyushin IL-2
Bomber: Ilyushin IL-4

Germany
Infantry 1: Has panzerfaust
Infantry 2: Has MP44 or FG42
Artillery: Nebelwefer
Mech: Sdkfz 251
Tank 1: Panzer II
Tank 2: Panzer IV or Tiger I
Fighter: ME262(yes this is a jet fighter, but besides the Ju 87 and Me 109 Germany had no other “commonly” recognizible planes except this one)
Bomber: Ju 390 Amerika Bomber( this piece goes well with IL’s Phase 2 map which has the azores on it, so Germany can bomb the US)

United Kingdom
Infantry 1: Beret with sten submachinegun or canadian infantry
Infantry 2: with lend-lease tommygun or australian infantry
Artillery: Sexton 25 pounder SP
Mech: Universal Carrier
Tank 1: Crusader
Tank 2: Churchill
Fighter: Hawker Hurricane
Bomber: Vickers Wellington

Japan
Infantry: guy with one of those foot mortars
Infantry: guy with the jap’s pretty unique winter get-up so you dont have infatry in tropical uniforms invading mother russia.
Artilery: Type 4 Ho-Ro ( I call it the Ha Ro  :lol:)
Mech: Type 1 Ho-Ha
Tank 1: Type 89 Otsu
Tank 2: Type 97 Chi-Ha
Fighter: Nakajima Ki-43
Bomber: Mitsubishi Ki-30

United States
Infantry 1: has M1 Carbine with 15 round mag not 10 or 30(I will be able to tell)
Infantry 2: Flamethrower guy would be cool
Artillery: M7 Preist
Mech: M3 Halftrack
Tank 1: M3 Stuart
Tank 2: Pershing M26
Fighter: P-51
Bomber: B-25 or B-29( they are both so awesome looking)

In general I think rocket lauchers and self-propelled guns should represent artillery seeing as towed artllery, with the excpetion of Railway guns and some anti-tank guns all look almost exactly like the 105mm already used by the allies.

Also I would like like to have some 2 engine bombers to play around with for the allies all though a B-29 peice would be awesome.
For Japan, although the Ki-30 is not technically a bomber it did bomb pearl harbor and is much more recognizible than any other japanese bomber which were not commonly used.

Emperor Taiki

I quite like most of your suggestions with a few exceptions

1.) Id prefer a Wespe, or Hummel to the nebelwerfer, but that’s a pretty minor niggle
2.) Panzer II. Id rather we had panzers IV & VI to go with the AA50 V’s
3.) ME262. No other recognizable plane than the Ju87 and the bf109? What about the FW190?
4.) Ju390, prototype only aircraft don’t really fit for me. He111 or Do217 probably better fits.
5.) Il-2 isnt really a fighter, one of the late model Yaks or a mig would probably be a better fit.

Just my 2 cents

Soviet Union
Infantry 1: with rifle at 3/4 position of body advancing and helmetless
Infantry 2: Helmet with PPSh-41 submachine gun with 35 round box magazine
Artllery: Katyusha BM-13
Mech: T-60
Tank 1: KV-1
Tank 2: SU-100 or -122(I like this choice too)
Fighter: The Il-2 is like the soveits’s stuka so even though it is not technically a fighter I thought we should have it, if not i guess the Yak-9 is ok.
Bomber: PETLYAKOV PE-8 HEAVY BOMBER, ok

Germany
Infantry 1: He should have a panzerfaust, it was a very common weapon, plus it is boring if every just has a rifle or machinegun.
Infantry 2: Has MP40 or FG42 in fallschrimjager uniform
Artillery: Nebelwefer, or Hummel if this is too much of a late war weapon
Mech: Sdkfz 251
Tank 1: Panzer II, all of the panzer’s are cool but this one would be good in a A&A or WWII game that had an earleir start date that 1941 and even after that, in Russia, especailly’ in the initail invasion these tanks were quite numerous.
Tank 2: Panzer IV or Tiger I
Fighter: ME262, if not this ithkrall’s FW190 suggestion would be the next choice
Bomber: Heinkel He 177?

United Kingdom
Infantry 1: classic 8th army flat helmit with Bren gun
Infantry 2: Paratooper with  Beret and sten gun
Artillery: Sexton 25 pounder SP
Mech: Universal Carrier
Tank 1: Crusader
Tank 2: Churchill
Fighter: Hawker Hurricane
Bomber: Vickers Wellington

Japan
Infantry: bandana and flag hanging from rifle advancing( can I see a picture of this?)
Infantry: Why not a winter soldeir?
Artilery: Type 4 Ho-Ro
Mech: Type 1 Ho-Ha
Tank 1: Type 89 Otsu
Tank 2: Type 97 Chi-Ha
Fighter: Kate, this is good it kind looks like the Ann, but thats fine becasue one is a torpedo bomber and the other is a light bomber
Bomber: Mitsubishi Ki-30 “Ann”

United States
Infantry 1:  Marine holding M1 carbine
Infantry 2: Regular GI with  Thompson or BAR
Artillery: Jackson tank destroyer( I understand, but why not a real self-proppeled artilery peice as opposed to a tank destroyer)
Mech: M3 Halftrack
Tank 1: M3 Stuart
Tank 2: Pershing M26
Fighter: P-51
Bomber: B-29, I have enough B-17s

my changes

I agree, it is sexy, but it is not a heavy bomber and I would like to see a He 177 becasue it was the only German heavy bomber produced on a large scale.

I would like to add my voice to the B-25 for the USA.  I would love to see the P-51 but I wouldn’t mind seeing the Corsair for the carriers instead.  I’d also like to see one infantry piece (maybe in a later offering) that is an officer.  As for the artillery pieces, lets stick with actual artillery instead of some of the anti-tank guns.  Most A&A arty pieces are already anti-tank guns anyway except for the German flak gun, which was used as both an AA weapon and in direct fire mode, not as a real artillery piece either.

Keep going FMG.  We’re pulling for you!

@dinosaur:

I would like to add my voice to the B-25 for the USA.  I would love to see the P-51 but I wouldn’t mind seeing the Corsair for the carriers instead.  I’d also like to see one infantry piece (maybe in a later offering) that is an officer.  As for the artillery pieces, lets stick with actual artillery instead of some of the anti-tank guns.  Most A&A arty pieces are already anti-tank guns anyway except for the German flak gun, which was used as both an AA weapon and in direct fire mode, not as a real artillery piece either.

Keep going FMG.  We’re pulling for you!

I am too really divded on whether I would like a B-25 or B-29.
I prefer the P-51 to the corsair becasue the  US already has a carrier plane.
FMG has said in this set that their will be officer pieces in addition to the 2 infantry pieces
About the artllery, the German 88mm is the only antitank gun mold made for A&A, the allied 105mm is the straightest artllery peice ever and the japanese artllery is some kind of infantry gun.

I have only suggested the FMG make self-proppeld and rocket artillery. The only anti-tank peice suggested to represent artillery is the Jackson M36 tank destoyer, and I too question that and am in favor of the M7 Priest.

Not to change the subject but I was # 70 yesterday when I took FMG pole to prepay, so its still growing. I also plan on getting a set of battle dice for AA50 maybe two. So keep spreading the word.

@WILD:

Not to change the subject but I was # 70 yesterday when I took FMG pole to prepay, so its still growing. I also plan on getting a set of battle dice for AA50 maybe two. So keep spreading the word.

This is still up and running.  I am just not taking money until I have some samples to show.  Thank you for the interest!

IL, I was thinking maybe you could re-post this project in other parts of the forum. It would affect all the AA games & house rules etc. Not everyone that comes to this forum would come to variants. Might help get the word out just a thought.

Wild Billy …

Or were you sugesting that IL make a notice in the other fora (AAR, AA50, AAG, AAE, AAP, AABulge & AAD-Day) to make sure the whole community is aware of this project?  That is how I understood your question.  Take care.

i think thats a good idea.  i’ve been coming to this site for a couple years, but never went to the variants page until a couple days ago but am extemely excited for these game pieces

@Imperious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.79

this should be Italian bomber

If you want to set up prepay, im ready as soon as you are.

Awwhh, that bomber is sweat as heck.  Triple engine?  Man, that’s exactly what Italy needs, a unique piece that stands out.  +1 Karma

Hey guys! I’m excited to make this my first post ( long time lurker ). I’m in for a set of nice game pieces and probably some dice too. You guys make great stuff. You’ve got my $$$.

Do you guys think the Russian Bomber should be the PE-8, cause we already have that. I was thinking of a double engine like the IL-4 so that Russia would have both a heavy and medium bomber