AARHE: Phase 2: Combat and Non-Combat Move

[tekkyy]

Some other house rules makes the Japanese/Axis restrictions to territories but not sea zones.
What do you think?

[Guerrilla Guy]

Maritime Co-operation… Tripartite Pact…

GG

[tekkyy]

A book review about German-Japanese relations.

Germany didn’t tell Japan until 2 days they are signing with USSR in 1939.
Germany didn’t tell Japan they would invade USSR in 1941.
Japan didn’t tell Germany they would sign with USSR in 1941, after Germany invaded USSR.
Japan didn’t tell Germany they would attack Pearl Harbour.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JIW/is_4_55/ai_95259491

But I think a SZ is hundreds of miles so we should still let them be in the same SZ.

[Imperious Leader]

But I think a SZ is hundreds of miles so we should still let them be in the same SZ.

All those statements are true but you make the opposite extrapolation. The point was they dont coordinate any forces, so why are we gonna allow them to coodinate naval forces except by accident?

In game terms its very clear that units sharing the same sea zone can be attacked and under this it can be assumed that “coordination” occured. They should be allowed to pass only thru each othes sea zones. Not remain in them.

We must allways defer to History to decide where the varient would be based upon and that information can only confirm what we allready know.

[tekkyy]

oh yes good point
letting them occupying same SZ would lets them defend together

[tekkyy]

in fact what would happen if Germany defeated Allies in the Pacific?
would territories be “returned” to Japan?

maybe Japan/Germany can’t really liberate each other’s territories

[Imperious Leader]

in fact what would happen if Germany defeated Allies in the Pacific?
would territories be “returned” to Japan?

maybe Japan/Germany can’t really liberate each other’s territories

++++ this should be the exception. much like in the Soviet example once they fall the western allies can land anywhere w/o limitations. This should be possible for either axis player to “save” the other once one has fallen. Exception would be Italy only Germany can “save” Italy, but Japan or Germany can save each other. Thanks for looking outside of the box.

[tekkyy]

yep ok
so restriction only applies while Japan holds “Japan” or Germany holds “Germany” respectively

but why Japan can’t save Italy?

[Imperious Leader]

Its kinda like the Soviets “saving” united states by attacking the east coast and destroying the germans. It seems so weird… I guess your right and we should allow any axis nation to save the other… Italy can save Japan… wow what a concept!@!!

[tekkyy]

er no…
actually with the current draft USSR does not save Allies
territories “liberate” becomes communist/USSR control

[Imperious Leader]

oh ok.