@the-general-0 Trust me, you’re going to want to go forward rather than backward. The 2nd edition rules and setup for Europe can be found on the downloads page. There were no changes to the Europe map in the 2nd edtion.
2nd edition?
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Is there a second edition coming out anytime soon. Larry mentioned a second edition with possibly some slight changes (move a couple naval bases) and I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it.
Well, a “second edition” would certainly be nice! Like one where a J2 or J3 or J4 attack actually makes sense! They don’t need to reprint the game, just alter the rules/setup a bit.
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Is there a second edition coming out anytime soon. Larry mentioned a second edition with possibly some slight changes (move a couple naval bases) and I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it.
Well, a “second edition” would certainly be nice! Like one where a J2 or J3 or J4 attack actually makes sense! They don’t need to reprint the game, just alter the rules/setup a bit.
In a way isn’t this a reprint though?
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@Dylan:
In a way isn’t this a reprint though?
In a way, perhaps, but it’s not a reprint when it’s something that can be put in a FAQ/errata or on the internet or a piece of paper.
If you don’t need to reproduce the entire game, it’s not a reprint, the way I look at it.
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Is there a second edition coming out anytime soon. Larry mentioned a second edition with possibly some slight changes (move a couple naval bases) and I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it.
Well, a “second edition” would certainly be nice! Like one where a J2 or J3 or J4 attack actually makes sense! They don’t need to reprint the game, just alter the rules/setup a bit.
How about just fixing the errors on the map, set ups and rule book?
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@skinny1:
Is there a second edition coming out anytime soon. Larry mentioned a second edition with possibly some slight changes (move a couple naval bases) and I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it.
Well, a “second edition” would certainly be nice! Like one where a J2 or J3 or J4 attack actually makes sense! They don’t need to reprint the game, just alter the rules/setup a bit.
How about just fixing the errors on the map, set ups and rule book?
Why make it again because of petty problems like that.
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With all of the foul ups in the set up, and in the rule book, it makes perfect sense to have a second edition.
And if you’re going to do that, why not incorperate a better game set up at the same time, as it seems reasonably possible that the OOB game rules don’t produce a good game and…dare I say, are broken…(ducks for fear of having objects flung my way)
i dont want to spend an extra 100 on a new game!
I didn’t want to spend $100 on a broken game either! (ducks back behind desk again)
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They might do a second reprint with a new battle board and set up cards, along with a better rule book. I don’t see them changing anything up, rather just fixing the stuff that is wrong. The same thing was done in the original A&A, not really any major changes but minor, yes.
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i dont want to spend an extra 100 on a new game!
I didn’t want to spend $100 on a broken game either! (ducks back behind desk again)
Well if you get Europe 40, the game won’t be broken
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I wonder if they will reissue both games in one box a few years from now. Maybe tweak it a bit and do just a global format. Could be like a collectors edition for $150.00 to $200.00.
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@Dylan:
Well if you get Europe 40, the game won’t be broken
:-o shocking I know.Europe doesn’t change a thing if you want to play Pacific as a stand alone. :?
There were some quotes from Larry in another thread on here, that someone took from the Harris website. They indicated that all along Pacific was intended from the begining to be a stand alone game.
Granted the Global game will be fun (I hope), there was the strong appeal for me that with the two games, there were going to actually be three games to have the option of playing, depending on time and what mood the players were in.
Not to knock the Europe game, but it has no bearing as far as I’m concerned, on the Pacific game.
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@Dylan:
Well if you get Europe 40, the game won’t be broken
:-o shocking I know.Europe doesn’t change a thing if you want to play Pacific as a stand alone. :?
There were some quotes from Larry in another thread on here, that someone took from the Harris website. They indicated that all along Pacific was intended from the begining to be a stand alone game.
Granted the Global game will be fun (I hope), there was the strong appeal for me that with the two games, there were going to actually be three games to have the option of playing, depending on time and what mood the players were in.
Not to knock the Europe game, but it has no bearing as far as I’m concerned, on the Pacific game.
I agrre with kaufschitick. Pacific was designed to be combined or alone.
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The problem with this is that WWII was……A WORLD WAR! Tough to simulate a section like pacific when there is no threat from Russia that forced Jap troops to stay in Manchuria. I bet you anything that when we get the global setup just take Russian troops and station them in territories in the East and I bet that would go a long way to balancing the game.
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White has an advantage in chess, too. Doesn’t make it a crappy game.
However, a chess board where squares connected to squares they weren’t supposed to? And only comes with thirteen pawns? That’s kinda crappy.
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