Vasily Saitsev - Hero of the Soviet Union.

[Fishmoto37]

Was Vasily Saitsev all he was cracked up to be or was he just a product of Soviet propaganda?

[Imperious Leader]

propaganda. They needed a hero and vic morrow was not born yet.

[Fishmoto37]

This is amazing. Looks like IL is the only one on this forum that has even heard of Vasily Saitsev. I thought that there were a lot of WWII students here.

[Octospire]

@Fishmoto37:

This is amazing. Looks like IL is the only one on this forum that has even heard of Vasily Saitsev. I thought that there were a lot of WWII students here.

I personally dont know if Vasily Zaytsev is all he was cracked up to be. I know of the legends and supposed accounts of his prowess but to be quite honest I dont think many people would know the truth. Unlike a battlefield commander who’s actions would be well known to many people and held accountable for those actions win or lose, a lone soldiers accomplishments can be exaggerated without too much difficulty to create a legend where there is none.

[Emperor_Taiki]

He did kill a 130 or so facists right? that deserves respect.

Here is are man

ouch,  not exactly jude law.

[ABWorsham4]

@Fishmoto37:

This is amazing. Looks like IL is the only one on this forum that has even heard of Vasily Saitsev. I thought that there were a lot of WWII students here.

A good read fictional read on Vasily Saitsev is War Of The Rats.

[Fishmoto37]

@Emperor_Taiki:

He did kill a 130 or so facists right? that deserves respect.

Here is are man

ouch,  not exactly jude law.

I think this was the number of kills in Stalingrad. His total for the entire war was much higher.

[allboxcars]

Well in terms of raw numbers I imagine there was some propaganda inflation… but then I can see how in urban warfare you could find yourself in a target rich environment and generate a string of kills without the necessity of a prolonged stalk.
And you might not get slammed with coord, massed firepower like during a meeting battle when the enemy isn’t so isolated and your position might be located quicker and dealt with by higher assets, fire and movement etc. so you’d live to hunt another day….

But then I wonder how many of his kills were presumed dead amongst all that cover?

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[calvinhobbesliker]

How historically accurate is ‘Enemy at the Gates’?

[crusaderiv]

The movie was based on the book:  War of the rats by David Robbins.
Good book.
Not a bad movie but not totally accurate.

[ABWorsham4]

@crusaderiv:

The movie was based on the book:  War of the rats by David Robbins.
Good book.
Not a bad movie but not totally accurate.

It’s an awesome read.

[crusaderiv]

It’s an awesome read.
I agree.
I presumed that you also read - Stalingrad- by A.Beevor.

[ABWorsham4]

@crusaderiv:

It’s an awesome read.
I agree.
I presumed that you also read - Stalingrad- by A.Beevor.

I have not.

[crusaderiv]

You should…