• @LHoffman:

    @UN:

    No problemo. These quote things are quite wonky.

    I wonder if that was the set-up for just Metropolitan France? Maybe he didn’t list the units that are spread throughout the French Empire? 'Cause I asked whether or not they’d  be a speedbump in France proper, not the entire Empire.

    Are you thinking French Indo-China will have 1 or 2 infantry. I don’t see how France could have 12 infantry in France proper… doesn’t that seem like a lot?

    Well, 12 infantry split between Vichy, the Paris territory, and Normandy, all defending against what will probably be a massive Wehrmacht onslaught, supported by tactical bombers, and then there’s the Italians you have to worry about…


  • @UN:

    @LHoffman:

    @UN:

    No problemo. These quote things are quite wonky.

    I wonder if that was the set-up for just Metropolitan France? Maybe he didn’t list the units that are spread throughout the French Empire? 'Cause I asked whether or not they’d  be a speedbump in France proper, not the entire Empire.

    Are you thinking French Indo-China will have 1 or 2 infantry. I don’t see how France could have 12 infantry in France proper… doesn’t that seem like a lot?

    If that’s the case, I’d say 6 in Paris, 3 or 4 in Brittany and 2 or 3 in Vichy
    Well, 12 infantry split between Vichy, the Paris territory, and Normandy, all defending against what will probably be a massive Wehrmacht onslaught, supported by tactical bombers, and then there’s the Italians you have to worry about…

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @UN:

    @LHoffman:

    @UN:

    No problemo. These quote things are quite wonky.

    I wonder if that was the set-up for just Metropolitan France? Maybe he didn’t list the units that are spread throughout the French Empire? 'Cause I asked whether or not they’d  be a speedbump in France proper, not the entire Empire.

    Are you thinking French Indo-China will have 1 or 2 infantry. I don’t see how France could have 12 infantry in France proper… doesn’t that seem like a lot?

    Well, 12 infantry split between Vichy, the Paris territory, and Normandy, all defending against what will probably be a massive Wehrmacht onslaught, supported by tactical bombers, and then there’s the Italians you have to worry about…

    Okay… fair enough. I am only assuming that Calvin agrees with you. I forgot there were 3 French territories in France.


  • @LHoffman:

    @UN:

    @LHoffman:

    @UN:

    No problemo. These quote things are quite wonky.

    I wonder if that was the set-up for just Metropolitan France? Maybe he didn’t list the units that are spread throughout the French Empire? 'Cause I asked whether or not they’d  be a speedbump in France proper, not the entire Empire.

    Are you thinking French Indo-China will have 1 or 2 infantry. I don’t see how France could have 12 infantry in France proper… doesn’t that seem like a lot?

    Well, 12 infantry split between Vichy, the Paris territory, and Normandy, all defending against what will probably be a massive Wehrmacht onslaught, supported by tactical bombers, and then there’s the Italians you have to worry about…

    Okay… fair enough. I am only assuming that Calvin agrees with you. I forgot there were 3 French territories in France.

    I don’t know if I agree. I would prefer the 12 inf in France itself instead of almost half of them scattered, but I think it’ll be scattered


  • Well it would make sense if it was 6 infantry in Paris territory, three in Vichy, three in Normandy. And of course the tank, fighter, and artillery is all in the Paris territory.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    Eh… whatever I guess, it doesn’t matter too much to me.  :-)


  • Well it would make sense if it was 6 infantry in Paris territory, three in Vichy, three in Normandy. And of course the tank, fighter, and artillery is all in the Paris territory.

    6 inf is kind of a lot for just one territory (even if it is the capital). I bet it’ll be more like 4 inf in Paris, 3 in Normandy/Brittany, 2 in Vichy, and the other 3 in the colonies (i.e. two in north africa and one in the equitorial african colonies). Then the more advanced units will be in Paris also


  • @calvinhobbesliker:

    @Dylan:

    France is too powerful  :-o

    :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?
    Germany will probably be able to attack France with about 20 inf, 5 art, 5 mech, 3 tanks, 6 ftrs, 6 tacs, 3 bombers

    20 inf wow, I guess I’m just not use to huge games.


  • @GrizzlyMan:

    6 inf is kind of a lot for just one territory (even if it is the capital).

    Japan starts with eight infantry in Pac 40. In terms of Revised or 42, six is a ton, but for the 40 games, it’s reasonable. I imagine Germany will start with like 10.


  • @McMan:

    @GrizzlyMan:

    6 inf is kind of a lot for just one territory (even if it is the capital).

    Japan starts with eight infantry in Pac 40. In terms of Revised or 42, six is a ton, but for the 40 games, it’s reasonable. I imagine Germany will start with like 10.

    But it’s France, they were next to dead after the low countries fell.


  • @Dylan:

    @McMan:

    @GrizzlyMan:

    6 inf is kind of a lot for just one territory (even if it is the capital).

    Japan starts with eight infantry in Pac 40. In terms of Revised or 42, six is a ton, but for the 40 games, it’s reasonable. I imagine Germany will start with like 10.

    But it’s France, they were next to dead after the low countries fell.

    Not necessarily. They still had quite a number of soldiers available at their disposal. It’s just that the best elements of the Army was sent up to Belgium and was floored, with the remnants escaping at Dunkirk.


  • Thats 100 IPC worth of units. and I think i saw a tank in the picture. Its in Africa.

    The picture that we saw doesn’t reflect the actual set-up (also fetured in the picture are American troops in Poland and French ships in the Indian Ocean).

    Japan starts with eight infantry in Pac 40. In terms of Revised or 42, six is a ton, but for the 40 games, it’s reasonable. I imagine Germany will start with like 10.

    That’s a good point, but France is one of the Allies, who all started with barely any infantry. Also, Larry said himself that “France will fall” so I don’t think he put half of Frances infantry on one territory


  • I think 2 in each French territory is reasonable. Considering they have 6 territories. Wasnt there a French Legion in Africa?

    France has more than 6 territories. Based on what we can discern from the map, there are 3 in Europe, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, possibly Morocco, and three in equitorial africa. France proper will be more heavily represented than its colonies, but there will be some units in the colonies


  • @UN:

    @Dylan:

    @McMan:

    @GrizzlyMan:

    6 inf is kind of a lot for just one territory (even if it is the capital).

    Japan starts with eight infantry in Pac 40. In terms of Revised or 42, six is a ton, but for the 40 games, it’s reasonable. I imagine Germany will start with like 10.

    But it’s France, they were next to dead after the low countries fell.

    Not necessarily. They still had quite a number of soldiers available at their disposal. It’s just that the best elements of the Army was sent up to Belgium and was floored, with the remnants escaping at Dunkirk.

    By best elements do you mean, like machinery or more highly trained soldiers.


  • @Dylan:

    @UN:

    @Dylan:

    @McMan:

    @GrizzlyMan:

    6 inf is kind of a lot for just one territory (even if it is the capital).

    Japan starts with eight infantry in Pac 40. In terms of Revised or 42, six is a ton, but for the 40 games, it’s reasonable. I imagine Germany will start with like 10.

    But it’s France, they were next to dead after the low countries fell.

    Not necessarily. They still had quite a number of soldiers available at their disposal. It’s just that the best elements of the Army was sent up to Belgium and was floored, with the remnants escaping at Dunkirk.

    By best elements do you mean, like machinery or more highly trained soldiers.

    Both I do believe.


  • Yes, both. The best-trained and best-equipped were sent with the BEF up to Belgium. So they didn’t sent the majority of the French Army there–-just the cream of the crop.


  • I’d say 6inf in the paris tt makes the most amount of sense. If you look at how quickly a stack of infantry gets chewed up by Tac bombers its really not that intimidating. From playing PAC40 and seeing how stacks of Chinese Infantry get destroyed by the Japanese with minimal ground forces with large amounts of air support, I think 6 is logical.
    Larry had mentioned in another post that the Germans will have a number of Mech infantry to call on to boost their numbers in the opening assualt on France(maybe like 4 or 5). We can then assume that the Germans will be able to bring a number of tanks to bare as well (guessing like 4 or 5). With this we can assume the Germans will also have that the Germans may have enough Tac bombers to pair up with the tanks, and a number of fighter aircraft and a few heavy bombers as well (im guessing no more then 2 or 3 heavy bombers, 6 or 7 fighters(spread out) and tac bombers equal to their tank units).
    If you combine this striking force with a stack or 8+ infantry, France dosnt stand a chance and the most you would hope to do as France is cause enough casualties in that stack of Infantry.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @GrizzlyMan:

    I think 2 in each French territory is reasonable. Considering they have 6 territories. Wasnt there a French Legion in Africa?

    France has more than 6 territories. Based on what we can discern from the map, there are 3 in Europe, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, possibly Morocco, and three in equitorial africa. France proper will be more heavily represented than its colonies, but there will be some units in the colonies

    Yes, but like UN said, he was asking Larry specifically about Germany versus the 3 European French territories. Larry’s response did not specify whether he included the African holdings, or French Indo-China in his totals for the units, but it very much sounded like he was talking 12 French infantry in Europe… NOT total French units around the world. Even though 12 may seem like a lot, when compared with Germany it will (hopefully) seem dreadfully small.


  • No.  they might just release the game in a bigger box for 6 nation boxes


  • @Axisgirl:

    Do you think the box will be longer?

    Maybe, maybe not. That definitely poses a interesting question: will they be forced to break the consistency of the Europe and Pacific boxes and add a 6th box or will the French units share a box with another power?

    August 24th seems awfully far away…

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