Europe 1940 for sure.
Most amount of pieces, best options, best map to make alternate scenario’s!
Is it a bad, if 60 dead American soldiers die in Iraq each month?
I agree with Jennifer, that it is not.
So why do I think those numbers are important?
Because they tell us something about Iraq.
482 US soldiers died within the ten months from March 2003 to December 2003. 641 US soldiers died within the ten months from Jannuary 2004 to October 2004. This is an increase of 33%.
We can conclude that the overall level of violence also increased from 2003 to 2004.
According to all polls, security is the biggest problem for Iraqi citizens. An increase of violence against US soldiers is very likely to coincide with a decrease of security for ordenary Iraqi citizens.
The situation for Iraqis is worse in 2004 than in 2003.
Well, in the first half of November 65 US-soldiers died in Iraq, which is 2 more than the total of October. Since the US-army actively confronted the insurgents, this isn’t surprising at all. The next months, especially Jannuary, when elections are scheduled, will have to show if the attack was really successfull.
All wars and police actions are similar and should be used to determine just how violent the violence level is in Iraq. What else should we compare it too? The average number of soliders who die driving home from basic training? Okay, that was kind of a joke.
I think we’ll see a steady decline of soldier deaths in Iraq provided whoever is elected stays the course and finishes the job.
Huh…guess that one didn’t work out so well for you?
All wars and police actions are similar and should be used to determine just how violent the violence level is in Iraq. What else should we compare it too? The average number of soliders who die driving home from basic training? Okay, that was kind of a joke.
I think we’ll see a steady decline of soldier deaths in Iraq provided whoever is elected stays the course and finishes the job.
Huh…guess that one didn’t work out so well for you?
More people died on Chicago highways this month (and every month since the war started, actually) then died in Iraq.
AKA It’s safer in Iraq then in Chicago.
Guess that didn’t work out so well for you, did it?
Good job deflecting sport, but you clearly stated a year ago:
I think we’ll see a steady decline of soldier deaths in Iraq provided whoever is elected stays the course and finishes the job.
And that has not been the case…regardless of how many people die on the road in Illinois.
Good job deflecting sport, but you clearly stated a year ago:
I think we’ll see a steady decline of soldier deaths in Iraq provided whoever is elected stays the course and finishes the job.
And that has not been the case…regardless of how many people die on the road in Illinois.
Post links iwth numbers. Last I heard, death toll was lower this year then last, and lower yet then last few months. And give me REAL links, not that liberal crap I usually see from you guys. Nothing related to Michael Moore or J. F***ing Kerry or the rest of that ilk. Give me MSNBC, CNN or some other internationally recognized news source based in the United States of America.
I’ve never posted a link from micheal moore…in fact I don’t think anyone ever has, you just seem to think everyone does
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties.htm
Since you always complain about stuff being too hard to read:
June 30 0 147 - 2004
June 77 0 316 - 2005
Columns go confirmed dead, reported dead and finally wounded. So in answering your remark made back in Nov. of 2004, the number of soliders killed is not steadily decreasing, it is in fact staying about the same with months of great flux. Now some more various links from google:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/31/AR2005083102249.html
I found this one interesting, although it’s from Canada so it doesn’t count in your eyes:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1121806344352_117215544/?hub=World
Just another example of the liberal media ignoring the real news: Chicago drivers.
All wars and police actions are similar and should be used to determine just how violent the violence level is in Iraq. What else should we compare it too? The average number of soliders who die driving home from basic training? Okay, that was kind of a joke.
I think we’ll see a steady decline of soldier deaths in Iraq provided whoever is elected stays the course and finishes the job.
Huh…guess that one didn’t work out so well for you?
More people died on Chicago highways this month (and every month since the war started, actually) then died in Iraq.
AKA It’s safer in Iraq then in Chicago.
Guess that didn’t work out so well for you, did it?
this is pretty idiotic.
you are not comparing apples to apples here, but maybe grapes to pianos.
American troops in Iraq vs. number of motorists in Chicago? Relative densities of the same?
also i am not sure how comparing number of highway deaths in a city to number of killings in a middle eastern country is appropriate.
i think i am going crazy (rubs eyes). i used to think i was a rational person, but the fact that this kind of argument appears to be unrefuted hurts my head. Maybe i was better off when i only corrected Jen’s mis-information about my country and my religion.
No, no. Jen’s on to something here. More people die in hospitals than in Iraq… Think of THAT next time those EMT jerks want to take you to “the slaughterhouse” (AKA “a hospital”).
No, no. Jen’s on to something here. More people die in hospitals than in Iraq… Think of THAT next time those EMT jerks want to take you to “the slaughterhouse” (AKA “a hospital”).
that’s a good point.
Come to think of it, i’ve had patients die in the hospital under my care . . . . Admittedly they were pretty sick with terminal illnesses . . . .
Come to think of it, i’ve had patients die in the hospital under my care
DOCTORS ARE KILLING OTHER PEOPLE IN CANADA FOLKS, LET’S GO INVADE THOSE JERKS!
Come to think of it, i’ve had patients die in the hospital under my care
DOCTORS ARE KILLING OTHER PEOPLE IN CANADA FOLKS, LET’S GO INVADE THOSE JERKS!
I don’t know. I have this image of Canadian mounties swooping down like a bunch of furies and… well, they’d be swooping at least! Nightmares all around.
Man we lost 10,000 men just taking Wake island from Japs… i dont see the big deal with Iraq. Heck we only lost 1,100 taking and holding an entire hostile nation for years… Why didnt anybody complain about Wake Island? Oh i forgot that was a war with a Democrat as President … or 4 term “King” called FDR. And I also forgot that life didnt matter then and Democrats also controlled both Houses of Congress… NM :wink: :wink: :o
@Imperious:
Man we lost 10,000 men just taking Wake island from Japs… i dont see the big deal with Iraq. Heck we only lost 1,100 taking and holding an entire hostile nation for years… Why didnt anybody complain about Wake Island? Oh i forgot that was a war with a Democrat as President … or 4 term “King” called FDR. And I also forgot that life didnt matter then and Democrats also controlled both Houses of Congress… NM :wink: :wink: :o
Two words: Just war
I’ve never posted a link from micheal moore…in fact I don’t think anyone ever has, you just seem to think everyone does
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties.htm
Since you always complain about stuff being too hard to read:
June 30 0 147 - 2004
June 77 0 316 - 2005
Columns go confirmed dead, reported dead and finally wounded. So in answering your remark made back in Nov. of 2004, the number of soliders killed is not steadily decreasing, it is in fact staying about the same with months of great flux. Now some more various links from google:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/31/AR2005083102249.html
I found this one interesting, although it’s from Canada so it doesn’t count in your eyes:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1121806344352_117215544/?hub=World
How many from training accidents? How many from natural causes? How many from hit and run drivers? How many from disease?
@cystic:
All wars and police actions are similar and should be used to determine just how violent the violence level is in Iraq. What else should we compare it too? The average number of soliders who die driving home from basic training? Okay, that was kind of a joke.
I think we’ll see a steady decline of soldier deaths in Iraq provided whoever is elected stays the course and finishes the job.
Huh…guess that one didn’t work out so well for you?
More people died on Chicago highways this month (and every month since the war started, actually) then died in Iraq.
AKA It’s safer in Iraq then in Chicago.
Guess that didn’t work out so well for you, did it?
this is pretty idiotic.
you are not comparing apples to apples here, but maybe grapes to pianos.American troops in Iraq vs. number of motorists in Chicago? Relative densities of the same?
also i am not sure how comparing number of highway deaths in a city to number of killings in a middle eastern country is appropriate.i think i am going crazy (rubs eyes). i used to think i was a rational person, but the fact that this kind of argument appears to be unrefuted hurts my head. Maybe i was better off when i only corrected Jen’s mis-information about my country and my religion.
Hundreds of thousands of soldiers in Iraq vs hundreds of thousands of drivers on Chicago interstates. Seems fair enough to me. At least soldiers get guns so they can shoot back. Here, some have guns, some dont, sometimes you get carjacked and killed, sometimes you get rammed by an 18 wheeler driven by a moron, etc. Much more dangerous here in the city then over there in Iraq.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf
Why can’t you look anything up for yourself? Again I will explain this graph for you.
Shows total dead of 1746 from May 1st 2003 to present. Of those 1356 were KIA, or killed in action. I can’t seem to find where the govt. proper is releasing numbers broken down by month like this ( shocking I know ) but if you break that down it is about 80% of the deaths each month are KIA deaths.
@Imperious:
Man we lost 10,000 men just taking Wake island from Japs… i dont see the big deal with Iraq. Heck we only lost 1,100 taking and holding an entire hostile nation for years… Why didnt anybody complain about Wake Island? Oh i forgot that was a war with a Democrat as President … or 4 term “King” called FDR. And I also forgot that life didnt matter then and Democrats also controlled both Houses of Congress… NM :wink: :wink: :o
Two words: Just war
Really? We rounded up Japanese citizens and put them in concentration camps where we ruthlessly tortured them (based on we treated them worse then we do Iraqis in jail today) leaving them without meals, in their own defecation and without the rights of their citizenship.
We provoked their attack on us. We allowed it to happen. And we wanted it to happen.
The Germans never attacked one US Citizen until after we pre-emptively attacked them, just like in Iraq.
Really, I think he nailed it on the head. FDR knew we needed the war to jump start our economy, without it, we’d be a 3rd world nation. The Congress and the Media were both liberal so would have supported him if he wanted to declare on France, Brition and Belgium if he wanted too (or California for that matter.)
Just war, huh? Really. Are you sure about that? You want to tell that to the millions of American families who lost relatives in that war? How about to the billions of families world wide that lost relatives in that war. How about those neutral nations that wanted nothing to do with it that were bullied into fighting just so they could maintain their way of life?
Yea, that was such a JUST war. A war, which argueably, could have been avoided if justice was done after WWI instead of punishing the Germans - who argueably could have been considered the good guys as they attempted to help their ally quell a terrorist rebellion inside their borders.
Just my ass. It’s only listed as just with all the allied atrocities buried as deep as possible because we won and we wrote the story afterwards. If the Germans/Japanese had won your history book would be completely different. I’m sure FDR would have been described as an imperialistic tyrant.
@Imperious:
Man we lost 10,000 men just taking Wake island from Japs… i dont see the big deal with Iraq. Heck we only lost 1,100 taking and holding an entire hostile nation for years… Why didnt anybody complain about Wake Island? Oh i forgot that was a war with a Democrat as President … or 4 term “King” called FDR. And I also forgot that life didnt matter then and Democrats also controlled both Houses of Congress… NM :wink: :wink: :o
i think that you may have “forgot” that Japan declared war on the US about the time of a bombing of some insignificant island in the pacific ocean . . . i’m having a hard time recalling the moment Iraq declared war on the US, although i do seem to recall some pretty broad capitulations prior to the invasion.
more grapes and pianos