Man, without Wikipedia I wouldn’t even know who won this war!
Man, without Wikipedia I wouldn’t even know who won this war!
Even this is debatable. The allies won from a military standpoint. The Soviet Union and US tied in standings after the war. And some may say there are no winners in war, in which case Switzerland was the clear winner.
@i:
how does switzerland win :? :?
Switzerland always wins. :-D
@Brain:
I like Germany having the option of attacking France or Russia first.
The problem with this is France declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Germany didn’t really have the option of ignoring France.
Man, without Wikipedia I wouldn’t even know who won this war!
Even this is debatable. The allies won from a military standpoint. The Soviet Union and US tied in standings after the war. And some may say there are no winners in war, in which case Switzerland was the clear winner.
Actually, it’s not debateable…I seriously would not know who won without Wiki.
@Brain:
I like Germany having the option of attacking France or Russia first.
The problem with this is France declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Germany didn’t really have the option of ignoring France.
France declared war before they checked to see if anyone was willing to fight.
France’s “sitzkreig” into Germany is famous as a one of the largest aborted campaigns ever, its true. But that doesn’t mean France and Germany didn’t fight between the invasion of Poland and the invasion of France. France sent a large number of troops to defend Norway.
@i:
how does switzerland win :? :?
Switzerland always wins. :-D
Switzerland always wins (and especially in WWII) because they have all the banks, and no matter which side won, they made all the money. :-P That’s a major reason why they were able to remain neutral. So dakgoalie38’s right that if there are no winners in war, then Switzerland wins because they didn’t fight, and they made all the money. :wink:
We didnt “win” we just profited from stolen gold.
Yea I think in the Euro game every time Germany takes a new country, they should get like a 2 ipc bonus as long as Switzerland is neutral.
Switzerland always wins because it’s banks always finance both side’s war economy.
yeah they do that a lot
More lulz…
Britain and France were also planning to send large contingents to Finland to fight the Soviets.
Interesting to speculate what might have happened if this had been ongoing when Barbarossa commenced.
Britain and France were also planning to send large contingents to Finland to fight the Soviets.
Interesting to speculate what might have happened if this had been ongoing when Barbarossa commenced.
that would lead to a three sided war
Allies: France, Britian and maybe the U.S.
The soviets
The Axis
i think the soveits would lose then the axis :-)
Yeah, without the mountains of material the Allies were sending the russians the would not have been able to fight, and for sure they would not have been able to support any large scale offensives of their own.
Britain and France were also planning to send large contingents to Finland to fight the Soviets.
Interesting to speculate what might have happened if this had been ongoing when Barbarossa commenced.
Actually, it’s quite interesting - the French (in particular) were very anti-soviet. The main reason for ‘assisting Finland’ however was to get hold of the Swedish iron ore mines that were supplying the Germans. Both Norway and Sweden were aware of this and were anti any allied forces coming through their territory to ‘assist Finland’.
This led to the French proposing a Royal Navy led assault on the Caucasus (to distract Russia) via the Black Sea!!! Which was clearly barmy. The UK had no intention of doing this. At all.
However - the entire debacle of Norway’s invasion was down to that iron ore, as well as the fact that while the British and French were still debating things the Germans simply landed in Norway to ‘guarantee her neutrality’ (and the ore). Just like the benelux countries - the scandys were so obsessed with preserving their neutrality in the face of the blundering ‘great powers’ that as Churchill (while 1st Lord of the Admiralty) commented ‘It is simply TOO LATE to emphasise neutrality neutrality neutrality and then cry for help once the Germans have invaded.’
I suspect that the germans (in the eventuality of war between the allies) would have sat out… watched, prepared, built up and then conquered the weary victors of such a war. After all - the germans were not bargaining on their lightning victory in France - it surprised everybody. In winter 1940, faced with the ‘greatest army in the world’ (as the French army was widely toted to be) I reckon the Germans would have relished the distraction/destruction of their enemies through such in fighting. Added to this - Hitler felt that he was taking a massive gamble - not having wanted a european war until 1943 when he imagined Germany would be ready for such an undertaking…
