Russia

[Raeder]

@Flashman:

The idea of Soviet units all fighting at 1 to represent the lack of leadership is interesting; but I repeat that the main reason the Germans did so well at first was that Russian units were deployed for attack; i.e. the air force was distributed amongst front line formations and was destroyed on the ground.

That’s actually more of a debate among historians than a historic fact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy

[Gwlachmai]

Man, without Wikipedia I wouldn’t even know who won this war!

[dakgoalie38]

@Gwlachmai:

Man, without Wikipedia I wouldn’t even know who won this war!

Even this is debatable.  The allies won from a military standpoint.  The Soviet Union and US tied in standings after the war.  And some may say there are no winners in war, in which case Switzerland was the clear winner.

[Raeder]

@i:

how does switzerland win :? :?

Switzerland always wins.  :-D

[Tralis]

@Brain:

I like Germany having the option of attacking France or Russia first.

The problem with this is France declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Germany didn’t really have the option of ignoring France.

[Gwlachmai]

@dakgoalie38:

@Gwlachmai:

Man, without Wikipedia I wouldn’t even know who won this war!

Even this is debatable.  The allies won from a military standpoint.  The Soviet Union and US tied in standings after the war.  And some may say there are no winners in war, in which case Switzerland was the clear winner.

Actually, it’s not debateable…I seriously would not know who won without Wiki.

[Guest]

@Tralis:

@Brain:

I like Germany having the option of attacking France or Russia first.

The problem with this is France declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Germany didn’t really have the option of ignoring France.

France declared war before they checked to see if anyone was willing to fight.

[Tralis]

France’s “sitzkreig” into Germany is famous as a one of the largest aborted campaigns ever, its true. But that doesn’t mean France and Germany didn’t fight between the invasion of Poland and the invasion of France. France sent a large number of troops to defend Norway.

[SilverAngelSurfer]

@Raeder:

@i:

how does switzerland win :? :?

Switzerland always wins.  :-D

Switzerland always wins (and especially in WWII) because they have all the banks, and no matter which side won, they made all the money.  :-P  That’s a major reason why they were able to remain neutral.  So dakgoalie38’s right that if there are no winners in war, then Switzerland wins because they didn’t fight, and they made all the money.  :wink:

[idk_iam_swiss]

We didnt “win” we just profited from stolen gold.

[WILD BILL]

Yea I think in the Euro game every time Germany takes a new country, they should get like a 2 ipc bonus as long as Switzerland is neutral.

[Flashman]

Switzerland always wins because it’s banks always finance both side’s war economy.

[idk_iam_swiss]

yeah they do that a lot

[Guest]

@Tralis:

France sent a large number of troops to defend Norway.

And we saw how effective that was.

[idk_iam_swiss]

More lulz…

[Guest]

@idk_iam_swiss:

More lulz…

Lulz are like cockroaches, they’re everywhere.

[Flashman]

Britain and France were also planning to send large contingents to Finland to fight the Soviets.

Interesting to speculate what might have happened if this had been ongoing when Barbarossa commenced.

[finnman]

@Flashman:

Britain and France were also planning to send large contingents to Finland to fight the Soviets.

Interesting to speculate what might have happened if this had been ongoing when Barbarossa commenced.

that would lead to a three sided war
Allies: France, Britian and maybe the U.S.
The soviets
The Axis

[i rock]

i think the soveits would lose then the axis :-)

[Danger Mouse]

Yeah, without the mountains of material the Allies were sending the russians the would not have been able to fight, and for sure they would not have been able to support any large scale offensives of their own.