L24 PTV Stucifer (X+10) vs max334 (L)

[Stucifer]

Scramble decision in 113

[max334]

What’s a good rule of thumb to use on whether to scramble or not. I know there’s no realistic chance of victory, but I want to take as much of the Luftwaffe with me as i can. What I’d like to know is what are the odds that scrambling will hurt you more than it will hurt me?
I know it’s super early where you are so just whenever can you point me in the right direction? TY

[Stucifer]

@max334 I like to use the battle calculator’s TUV feature and average units remaining. If a battle is less than 80%s then I usually go with average units and manually calculate TUV because the numbers can get skewed.

In this case the odds are nearly 100% even with the scramble. So you can compare average TUV swing and see if it changes between the two. In this case I think it is essentially flat. Which means on average each of your fighters gets a plane. But part of that is because the engine is automatically selecting a 12-ipc strat bomber as my 2nd and 3rd casualty, so it would probably be more like a -4 IPC avg TUV if you scramble.

As far as reasons to still do it: you’re already looking at a -28 battle. If you can keep that number where it is and trade UK fighters for German ones, it takes pressure of US to build more Atlantic fleet to stay close to shore, and helps Russia. I’d have to consider what I would do with my fighters if I don’t scramble them too. Maybe you want to start moving them from London towards India along the Gibraltar-Egypt pipeline. If that is more important to you than the German planes you may or may not shoot down (luck still! She can be a fickle creature…)

[max334]

damn, again I fail to understand, but never-the-less lets scramble 3 ftrs and take a few extra Luftwaffe down with us

[Stucifer]

I also find this tool useful sometimes, when I want to look at the likelihood of a more extreme outcome:

https://www.omnicalculator.com/statistics/dice

For example, if I want to know how likely it is for all of your fighters + your battleship to score hits on the first round:

it is 19.75%. Since you also have a destroyer and a cruiser, you could get 3 hits from your BB+Fighters and one from them. The chance that you get at least 3 hits from your BB+fighters is 59%.

You’d still need to hit with your DD or cruiser (67% chance one of them hits), so your odds of getting 4 hits in the first round is about 50-50.

The battle calculator shows average units left for Germany being 6.73. so over the course of the simulations UK killed 4 most of the time, only 3 a small amount of the time, and 5-6 enough of the time to average a little over 4 kills total. Also a little over half of the battles went to round 2 as the Average #rounds is 1.65

[Stucifer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 airfield, 3 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
        Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from France to 113 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        2 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Vologda to Novgorod
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Leningrad to Kursk
        1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Novgorod
        1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus
              Germans take Northern Belarus from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Kursk
        5 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
              Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians
        1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Northern Belarus

    Combat - Germans
        British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 113 Sea Zone
        Battle in Novgorod
            Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
            Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            British defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Holland Belgium, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium
            Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 transport
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 6.17 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 transport in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the Germans, 1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 fighters and 1 transport in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the British, 1 battleship owned by the British and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31
            Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 transport
        Battle in Kursk
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kursk, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kursk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kursk, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kursk, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Kursk
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kursk
            Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Rostov
            Germans attack with 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Rostov, round 2 : 5/15 hits, 5.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
            Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kursk to Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Ukraine
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 aaGun, 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus
        2 transports moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from Germany to 117 Sea Zone
        4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 117 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad
        1 destroyer moved from 117 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        2 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
        1 bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to France
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
        2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia

    Place Units - Germans
        2 infantry placed in Germany
        1 transport placed in 102 Sea Zone
        2 infantry placed in Romania
        1 airfield placed in Ukraine
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 65 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 1.67
Germans regular : -3.17
British regular : -1.17

Savegame

[max334]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 3 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Vologda
              Russians take Vologda from Germans
        1 armour moved from Bryansk to Southern Belarus
              Russians take Southern Belarus from Germans
        1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk

    Combat - Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Gorky to Nenetsia
        1 armour moved from Smolensk to Gorky
        1 mech_infantry moved from Samara to Timguska
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Urals to Timguska
        1 mech_infantry moved from Tambov to Samara
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus
        5 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Northern Caucasus
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tambov to Tula
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Kazakhstan
        1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Ulaanbaatar
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Dzavhan

    Place Units - Russians
        1 infantry placed in Stalingrad
        3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 32 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 34 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[Stucifer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 fighter, 5 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Manilla
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 132 Sea Zone to Malaya
        1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 38 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Dutch New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Manilla
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Manilla
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 46 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from French Indo China to 39 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 132 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 38 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 38 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 132 Sea Zone to Malaya
        2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Hunan
        1 cruiser moved from 132 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in 59 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the British lost in 59 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 1 transport
        Battle in Malaya
            Japanese attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Malaya, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the British lost in Malaya
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Malaya, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Malaya, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Malaya
            Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for British: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Manilla
            Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Manilla, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Manilla, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Manilla
            Japanese win, taking Manilla from Americans with 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Java
            Japanese attack with 1 infantry and 1 marine
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 cruisers in Java, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 marine in Java, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 marine in Java, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Java
            Japanese win, taking Java from UK_Pacific with 1 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in 39 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 39 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers in 39 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 39 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 39 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 2 bombers and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Hunan
            Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 3 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
                3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
            Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 artillery
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the British lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to French Indo China
        1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 43 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 38 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 59 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from 39 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Davao
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Amur to Buryatia
        3 artilleries moved from Buryatia to Buyant-Uhaa
        2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Buyant-Uhaa
        1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Davao
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 battleship and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 marine placed in Japan
        1 airfield, 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
        3 infantry placed in Southern Manchuria

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1
        Japanese collect 60 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 60 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 63 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.67
Americans regular : -0.33
Japanese regular : 0.83
UK_Pacific regular : -2.00
British regular : -0.33

Savegame

[max334]

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[Stucifer]

@max334 scramble 2 fighters and tac to Yunnan.

[max334]

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Morocco to 93 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 119 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 32 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 18 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima
        1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
        3 marines moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Paulau
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
              Americans take 55 Sea Zone from Japanese
        1 mech_infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Gilbert Islands
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 23 Sea Zone to Marianas

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Iwo Jima
        Battle in Gilbert Islands
        Battle in Paulau
        Battle in Marianas
        Battle in Malta
        Battle in Solomon Islands
        Battle in 123 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 123 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 123 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 123 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 123 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking Iwo Jima from Japanese, taking Gilbert Islands from Japanese, taking Paulau from Japanese, taking Marianas from Japanese, taking Malta from Italians, taking Solomon Islands from Japanese with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 destroyer moved from 119 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 destroyer moved from 32 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 23 Sea Zone to Marianas
        2 submarines moved from 34 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 55 Sea Zone to New Guinea
        1 fighter moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to Wake Island
        2 carriers and 2 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Queensland to 23 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
        1 fighter moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 armour moved from Western United States to Eastern United States
        1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Eastern United States

    Place Units - Americans
        2 transports placed in 104 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States
        1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States
        2 destroyers, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 52 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Hunan
        1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Hunan
        2 infantry moved from Honan to Shansi
        2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Shansi

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Hunan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 armour
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
            Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
        Battle in Shansi
            Chinese attack with 4 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Shansi, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shansi
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shansi
            Chinese win, taking Shansi from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Honan
        1 fighter moved from Hunan to Honan

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Honan
        2 infantry placed in Hopei
        Chinese undo move 2.
        Chinese undo move 1.
        1 infantry placed in Honan
        3 infantry placed in Szechwan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 airfield, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Libya
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
              British take Tunisia from Italians
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to 94 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Libya
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shan State to Malaya
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Malaya
        1 fighter moved from Eastern India to Yunnan
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Malaya
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Libya

    Combat - British
        Japanese scrambles 3 units out of French Indo China to defend against the attack in Yunnan
        Battle in Sumatra
        Battle in Yunnan
            British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Sumatra from Japanese with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Malaya
            British attack with 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 2 artilleries, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Malaya, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the British lost in Malaya
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Malaya
                British roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 tactical_bomber in Malaya, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Malaya, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 tactical_bomber in Malaya, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Malaya, round 4 : 3/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the British and 2 artilleries owned by the British lost in Malaya
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Malaya
            Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -17
            Casualties for British: 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        Battle in Libya
            British attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 artillery
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Libya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Libya
            British win, taking Libya from Italians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
        Moving scrambled unit from Yunnan back to originating territory: French Indo China
        Moving scrambled unit from Yunnan back to originating territory: French Indo China
        Moving scrambled unit from Yunnan back to originating territory: French Indo China

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 fighters moved from Libya to 98 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
        2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
        1 artillery moved from Egypt to Alexandria
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Malta
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma

    Place Units - British
        1 airfield placed in Egypt
        1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 83 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 93 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 94 Sea Zone: 2 destroyers
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - British
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 73 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5
        British collect 33 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 33 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Eastern India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 132 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,6,6
        UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 10 PUs
        Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.00
Americans regular : 0.33
Italians regular : -0.33
Japanese regular : 3.17
Germans regular : -0.17
British regular : -2.50

Savegame

[Stucifer]

Wow, that Malaya battle was a complete upset.

@max334 said in L24 PTV Stucifer (X+10) vs max334 (L):

EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 fighter

was this coming off Gibraltar?

[Stucifer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 armour moved from Ukraine to Kursk
              Italians take Kursk from Russians
        1 armour moved from Kursk to Rostov
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Libya
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Libya, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Libya, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Libya, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Libya, round 4 : 2/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Libya, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Libya
                1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Libya
            Italians win, taking Libya from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 armour, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
        3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Ukraine
        1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Cyprus to 101 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
        3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy
        2 infantry placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -3.50
British regular : -1.00

Savegame

[Stucifer]

I skipped the scramble to Libya due to +70% odds, but if you would like to scramble there we can re-roll.

[max334]

@Stucifer just seeing this. I’m not sure where it came from, sometimes they just seem to materialize… its the craziest thing :)

[max334]

@max334 sorry, I have bad humor. I’m investigating it now and I dont see a ftr removed

[max334]

Damn, now I have egg on my face. It’s all the more embarrassing because a few years back I got upset at someone for materializing a panzer and not even telling me that they had done an edit.

[Stucifer]

no worries sir happens to the best of us :)

[Stucifer]

@max334 said in L24 PTV Stucifer (X+10) vs max334 (L):

@Stucifer just seeing this. I’m not sure where it came from, sometimes they just seem to materialize… its the craziest thing :)

I prefer to discover tanks materializing with special beer delivery

😅🤣

[max334]

@Stucifer lol