L24 PtV Stucifer (Allies) vs. Nikola1975 (Axis +9)

[Stucifer]

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        3 fighters moved from Java to Eastern India
        1 transport moved from 59 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
        1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 65 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 65 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 64 Sea Zone to New South Wales
        1 destroyer moved from 64 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 17 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[nikola1975]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 3

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
              Germans take Baltic States from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Albania to Eastern Poland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Albania to Eastern Poland
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Ukraine
        2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
        1 fighter moved from Albania to Eastern Poland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Albania to Eastern Poland

    Combat - Germans
        Strategic bombing raid in Ukraine
                Russians roll AA dice in Ukraine : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Ukraine rolls: 4 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory_minor
            Bombing raid in Ukraine causes 3 damage total. 
        Battle in Eastern Poland
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland
            Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Fleet Scuddle: has removed 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer owned by Neutral_Axis in 95 Sea Zone
        Trigger Germany Occupies Algeria Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Algeria
        Trigger Germany Syria France Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Syria
        Trigger Germany Occupies French West Africa Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in French West Africa
        Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband: has removed 1 artillery and 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France
        1 armour, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 fighter and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
        1 fighter moved from Malta to Bessarabia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Alexandria to 94 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 116 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Morocco to 94 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 aaGun moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        1 armour moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        2 armour moved from Greece to Romania
        3 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
        6 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania
        3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
              Germans take Southern France from Neutral_Axis
        1 infantry moved from France to Southern France
        1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia

    Place Units - Germans
        1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Germany
        Trigger Germans Occupies Southern France Army Disband Facilities: has removed 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France
        Trigger Germany Occupies Southern France Facilities: Germans has 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour placed in Southern France

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : -1.33
Russians AA : -0.17

Savegame

[Stucifer]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 3

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 artillery and 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Leningrad to Bessarabia
        2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
        1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Bessarabia

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Bessarabia
            Russians attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 3 fighters, 10 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 2 armour
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 3 fighters, 10 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 2 : 9/20 hits, 6.67 expected hits

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 2.33

Savegame

[Stucifer]

@nikola1975 making an aggressive move again, using these trapped West Ukraine units while I have decent odds –

Got pretty lucky on round 1, so I am asking for OOL.

[nikola1975]

@Stucifer Hm, can’t open the game:

Error loading save game, saved version might not be compatible with current engine.

[nikola1975]

@Stucifer Anyway:

1. Kill infantry first.
2. Follow with artillery.
3. Then bomber, and then as the game suggests.

[Stucifer]

@nikola1975 Do you also have 2.5.x installed? Mine opens with 2.5 if I just try to open from the .tsvg instead of loading inside the 2.6 client

[nikola1975]

@Stucifer

Kill infantry first.
Follow with artillery.
Then bomber, and then as the game suggests.

I have this version:

How did you send games before?

[Stucifer]

@nikola1975 I alternate using my laptop and my desktop. My laptop can post to forum but my desktop is still running windows 7 and gets a socket error (not sure if that’s related to Win7 or something else)

I followed your OOL and somehow snaked out a (Pyrrhic?) victory 😱

[Stucifer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 artillery and 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Leningrad to Bessarabia
        2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
        1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Bessarabia

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Bessarabia
            Russians attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 3 fighters, 10 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 2 armour
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 3 fighters, 10 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 2 : 9/20 hits, 6.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Bessarabia, round 2 : 10/20 hits, 8.17 expected hits
                10 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                9 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 3 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 3 : 7/10 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in Bessarabia, round 3 : 4/11 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                4 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 1 bomber owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the Germans, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans and 2 armour owned by the Italians lost in Bessarabia
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 3 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 4 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in Bessarabia, round 4 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                1 fighter owned by the Germans and 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Bessarabia, round 5 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 fighter in Bessarabia, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
            Russians win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
            Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for Italians: 2 armour

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Northern Belarus
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Archangel
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Northern Belarus
        1 aaGun moved from Southern Belarus to Northern Belarus
        1 aaGun moved from Kursk to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Smolensk to Leningrad
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Stalingrad
        1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
        3 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska

    Place Units - Russians
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Leningrad
        3 infantry placed in Stalingrad
        9 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 48 PUs
        Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 50 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 52 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 1.67
Russians regular : 5.33

Savegame

[Stucifer]

Not truly Pyrrhic I guess, considering the loss of German air force. That could be a game-defining battle.

[Stucifer]

@nikola1975 If you have trouble opening the save file for the completed turn, I can try it from my desktop.

my tripleA versions are
desktop - 2.6.14549
laptop - 2.6.14786

no reason those shouldn’t be compatible

[nikola1975]

@Stucifer

I managed to open it now.

The battle was terrible. Shouldn’t have put those guys in the encirclement in the Ukraine, they did not have much more choice than to fight like they did.

[Stucifer]

@nikola1975 +5.33 is no joke. If I could play craps with such luck in Vegas I would certainly be banned from multiple casinos! 🤣

[nikola1975]

@Stucifer I am looking at something else as well. That Australian destroyer?

[Stucifer]

@nikola1975 It’s a pain in the ass. Legally keeps you from loading up your transports in that sea zone, although I realized you can move to the sea zones adjacent to pick up still so isn’t quite as mean as it would be in normal G40/BM where those troops would all be stuck on Carolines this round.

[Stucifer]

Well, if you declare war on UK/ANZAC this round. Which I figured you would…

[nikola1975]

@Stucifer Well, I don’t see that as fair.

Anyway, it does not work. I am loading the troops and moving transports. I guess it does not count if you moved there while we were at peace?

Might unload them in Australia now as well…

[Stucifer]

Hmm, I might have misunderstood the rule, I will double check. You might be right, they might have to be at war before the turn starts?

[nikola1975]

@Stucifer Might have to do something with this:

Declaring War If there are no restrictions currently keeping you from being at war with a power on the other side (see ‘The Political Situation‘), you may declare war on that power. War must be declared on your turn at the beginning of the Combat Move phase, before any combat movements are made, unless otherwise specified in the political rules. An actual attack is not required. Once a state of war is entered into, all territories and sea zones controlled by or containing units belonging to the power on which you declared war instantly become hostile to your units, and the normal restrictions of moving into or through hostile spaces apply, with one exception. During your Combat Move phase in which you entered into a state of war, your transports that are already in sea zones that have just become hostile may be loaded in those sea zones (but not in other hostile sea zones). In effect, transports may be loaded in their initial sea zones for amphibious assaults before war is declared, while the sea zone is still friendly.