L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22)

[GeneralDisarray]

Not such a stickler just never been allowed to bid there. If the ranked league rules say its good I’m all good. @gamerman01 What do you think good sir?

[axis-dominion]

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

Not such a stickler just never been allowed to bid there. If the ranked league rules say it’s good I’m all good. @gamerman01 What do you think good sir?

That’s the point, he’ll say it’s the default but really up to the players to agree on it. Your disagreeing is I guess the first time I’m personally encountering this, making me think we should probably be explicit about everything else before proceeding. I’ve had opponents question it but after explaining that it’s a longstanding convention they always allow it. You even admit it’s something that was common in non-league play. So why disallow it, I mean you know I’d allow you to do it as well right? That should be obvious.

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion To your point ok then. I guess grass roots start somewhere go ahead and edit back and proceed.

[axis-dominion]

Anyway whatever. Let me know how you approach edits. I allow all edits as long as I haven’t rolled yet, and even if I’ve rolled I’m willing to allow, just ask me and I’ll evaluate. Main thing is of course the edits should not be based on knowing outcome of dice rolled or subsequent decisions/moves made by opponent. So my evaluation is usually based on that. Sometimes dice rolled on one side of board truly have no bearing on an edit request elsewhere, for example. Also I’m usually ok with US edits made after China and UK moves/rolls as long as, again, not influenced by dice outcomes. Which is I think logical and common sense.

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion Go ahead if it is being accept as you say I’m all on board with the change. How you want to edit that guy between China and Anzac make no difference on my German turn. That being said if you want to edit on the Eroupe side that may change things.

[axis-dominion]

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@axis-dominion Go ahead if it is being accept as you say I’m all on board with the change. How you want to edit that guy between China and Anzac make no difference on my German turn. That being said if you want to edit on the Eroupe side that may change things.

ok thanks, i would like it on ng in that case.

afa decisions:

1. no scramble

2. in 106, sub fights. if you hit first, I’ll take the dd as casualty and submerge. if I hit first, then sub stays in and is the first casualty

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion G1 OOL.tsvg OOL in 106

[axis-dominion]

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@axis-dominion G1 OOL.tsvg OOL in 106

getting an error when i try to open it. how many hits did you get?

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion I got 1 but I’m down to 1 sub now

[axis-dominion]

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@axis-dominion I got 1 but I’m down to 1 sub now

so my sub got a hit on you?

[GeneralDisarray]

@GeneralDisarray You still have a sub and a dest

[axis-dominion]

ok i’ll take out the sub then

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion G1.tsvg

[GeneralDisarray]

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from New Guinea: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Hunan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Germans buy 1 destroyer, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Germans
        3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
        1 armour moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        1 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        2 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Bessarabia
        1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Bessarabia
        3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Eastern Poland
        2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Baltic States
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Baltic States
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to France
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
        3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 106 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 submarines
            British defend with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
            British win with 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
            Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines
            Casualties for British: 1 submarine
        Battle in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
            Germans win with 1 battleship, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
        Battle in France
            Germans attack with 3 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
            Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
            Germans converts factory_major into different units
            Germans win, taking France from French with 3 armour, 3 artilleries and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
            Casualties for Germans: 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
        Battle in Bessarabia
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 2 infantry
            Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
        Battle in Eastern Poland
            Germans attack with 6 armour and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 2 infantry
            Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 6 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 3 infantry
            Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French
        triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Poland
        2 bombers moved from Bessarabia to Germany
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France
        2 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
        1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
              Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
        4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Southern Italy
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Germans
        1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 113 Sea Zone
        5 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs

[GeneralDisarray]

Go ahead and edit the inf back if you like

[axis-dominion]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Hunan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to New Guinea: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Russians buy 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Russians
        3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
        1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Baltic States

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Baltic States
            Russians attack with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
            Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
        3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod
        2 fighters moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
        3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone
        2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
        6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
        2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov

    Place Units - Russians
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod
        3 infantry placed in Ukraine
        5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.33
Russians regular : 0.83

Savegame

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion Scramble?J1 Scramble.tsvg

[axis-dominion]

@GeneralDisarray said in L24 bm4 general-dis (axis) vs axis-dom (allies+22):

@axis-dominion Scramble?J1 Scramble.tsvg

no scramble. with that battleship there i would never scramble (fyi for next time)

[GeneralDisarray]

@axis-dominion J1.tsvg

[GeneralDisarray]

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 marine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Politics - Japanese
        Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
        Trigger Russians Allied Americans 5: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Japanese
        Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
              Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
        1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 fighter moved from Formosa to Kwangtung
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
        1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangtung
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to 20 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 35 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
              Japanese take French Indo China from French
        1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Kwangtung

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Borneo
        Battle in 35 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
        Battle in Philippines
            Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
            Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
        Battle in Hunan
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 2 infantry
            Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 5 infantry
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 5 infantry
        Battle in Kwangtung
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
            Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
        2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
        1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
        4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
        1 fighter moved from Korea to Japan
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 marine placed in Japan
        3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2
        Japanese collect 39 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 39 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs