G1 Taking all of France

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@TheVeteran

One tactical bomber from Poland, one fighter from Slovakia Hungary (I only played that mod once, and I think the starting setup is the same).

[AndrewAAGamer]

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris @SuperbattleshipYamato @TheVeteran

Obviously, if you are playing Low Luck, are the much weaker Player or are playing BMx that changes things. I always comment assuming 2nd Edition OOB and Players of equal caliber.

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@AndrewAAGamer

Agreed.

I don’t know why but I never considered Low Luck a house rule on par with say, one of The Captain’s house rules.

In my view it’s not really changing anything except the dice, which isn’t part of the game.

And yes, what I just said:

Is wrong.
Doesn’t make any sense.

So yeah, I’m an idiot and you’re right. Sorry if that sounded stupid. Just trying to articulate my irrational thoughts into words.

[squirecam]

@TheVeteran

And I like taking Southern France with Germany specifically to help Italy in the med.

Getting Italy to 25+ IPC is key and you can do so by getting them their bonuses. No ships in the med and Gibraltar plus Greece and then North Africa. Now you have a helpful partner as opposed to a drain on resources that a weak Italy is.

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@squirecam

In my experience three slots is nowhere enough for Germany to build up a fleet and transports in the Mediterranean to make a difference while not getting destroyed by the British.

And Germany’s IPCs are very busy breaking the Soviets.

Leave Southern France to Italy to boost their income. In case Northern Italy is somehow captured, it’s a very useful backup complex. Germany has enough backup industrial complexes in the rest of France in case of Allied bombings anyway.

[squirecam]

@SuperbattleshipYamato

How many games have you tried it ?

[TheVeteran]

@SuperbattleshipYamato
Yes that is correct those are the 2 aircraft I send in to the paris battle

[TheVeteran]

@squirecam I’m sorry but that sounds horrible. The standard play in OOB is for Italy to capture Southern France . In Balanced mod I create Vichy so in both I will do the same - attack Normandy and Paris turn 1 with Germany

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@squirecam

3 or 4 or 5 times. I’ve played hundreds of games, all by myself, can’t remember.

Regardless, I remember what I said earlier as being a constant throughout each of these games.

[Drakenhart]

Could you tell me with what units exactly you are attacking northern france and southern france, so that the attack on paris is still strong enough?

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@Drakenhart

This is only for low luck.

Normandy Bordeaux is 100%, although by my own calculations realistically 99%.

Paris is 99%.

Southern France is 100%.

The units used are every ground unit in range of France, along with a fighter from Slovakia Hungary, the tactical bomber from Poland, and the tactical bomber from Berlin.

Keep in mind using the tactical bomber from Berlin may weaken an attack against sea zone 110 should you decide to attack there.

[shadowhawk]

@SuperbattleshipYamato said in G1 Taking all of France:

@squirecam

In my experience three slots is nowhere enough for Germany to build up a fleet and transports in the Mediterranean to make a difference while not getting destroyed by the British.

And Germany’s IPCs are very busy breaking the Soviets.

Leave Southern France to Italy to boost their income. In case Northern Italy is somehow captured, it’s a very useful backup complex. Germany has enough backup industrial complexes in the rest of France in case of Allied bombings anyway.

While it might not make a difference when the US enters the field it can make a difference before that. Build a carrier + DD + transport round 2 and have the remnants of the italian fleet merge there and italy will be safe and you can actually use it to attack stuff with.
What will the UK do? Attack with 1 bomber against a full carrier?
You can lead with Italy and have gemany just reinforce with the carrier. It gives italy a bit more flexibility in the med for a few turns at least. Could make a difference in getting egypt and by extention the rest of afrika.

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@shadowhawk

I’ll try that out.

[TheVeteran]

@shadowhawk I don’t see this working but try it if you wish

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@TheVeteran

We’ll see.

Wanna playtest it?

[TheVeteran]

@SuperbattleshipYamato I don’t particularly enjoy G40 OOB anymore

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@TheVeteran

Oh well.

[ampdrive]

@SuperbattleshipYamato I think if you try to take all of France G1,you will be too weak somewhere.The best 2 reasons, IMO, to take S.Fra G1 is getting the factory and providing a landing spot for Italian air I1.I almost never get to collect the 3ipcs G1 because I get convoyed by the french navy.
As for Normandy,I sometimes like to leave it french so that USA or UK can’t use the factory later.However,I want to kill the french land units there so they can’t attack holland F1 with help from the fighter in UK.
So a real brave G1 would look:
to normandy 2jnf 1 fig. { land in rome} expect to retreat
to S.france 1 tank 1 mech 1 fig fron slovia
to france all land that can reach + TB from poland

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@ampdrive

I’ve found taking all of France on the first turn isn’t too risky when playing low luck.

I generally try to use as little aircraft as possible against France (just Slovakia Hungary fighter for Southern France) since they’re usually needed to take down the Allied fleets.

[TheVeteran]

@SuperbattleshipYamato nobody plays low luck so don’t use that as any standard of play please