The problem is the AA gun can hit 10 IPC or 12 IPC units for 6 IPC.
The “land AA gun” is hitting infantry only and it should cost more than an AA gun because it represents alot more than a flak battery. It represents years of building and substantial investment to build. It should potentially be more potent and create psychological fear in the issue of the viability in constantly trading the territory to collect income. The higher cost represents the risk/reward ratio in such an investment that may or not pay off and stave off this trading. To me this is exactly what the allies faced and why in THE REAL WAR they just didn’t invade Europe every 4 months. If the land AA gun hits on a 1, it would prevent frequent landings, while 2 will.
Well said! The balance of historically accurate, vs fun gameplay is balanced that way.
I think we need a blockhouse poll
How do you start those?
Clearly there is a language barrier here. You still have not answered the question, and this has nothing to do with the original topic so let’s just drop it.
Back on topic now. What should be done about France?
Um, I have a question…
does anyone know why the French will only have a unique infantry mold? What happened to the Char b1, or the Dewoitine D.520? What about its naval units?
It wouldn’t really make sense if all it used was British/American molds.
Well thats what is going to happen. I don’t like it either.
Thank goodness for FMG.
@UN:
Um, I have a question…
does anyone know why the French will only have a unique infantry mold? What happened to the Char b1, or the Dewoitine D.520? What about its naval units?
It wouldn’t really make sense if all it used was British/American molds.
It’s all about costs dude. You’re not going to see the French very much, I’m happy to even get French dedicated pieces in general.
I was eager to see their own unique mold of them running for their lives.
Maybe the infantry molds will have their hands in the air.
no point in having the old french tank in the game b/c itll only be in use for 1 or 2 turns at the most. better to use the sherman cause thats what the free french used in the normandy campaign
What did the french do in Normandy?
@Brain:
What did the french do in Normandy?
Watch from a safe distance
@Brain:
What did the french do in Normandy?
Watch from a safe distance
That would be a waste of good tanks.
@Brain:
@Brain:
What did the french do in Normandy?
Watch from a safe distance
That would be a waste of good tanks.
They needed some way to get them to stop complaining.
@Brain:
What did the french do in Normandy?
You’re probably joking. If you are, great, don’t read the next 2 quotes. Otherwise, allow me to quote from “112 Gripes About the French” to sum up an otherwise unreadable rant.
@112:
18. “The French let us down when the fighting got tough. What did they do - as fighters - to help us out?”
Here are a few of the things the French did (and not just in Normandy):
* The French fought in Africa, in Sicily, liberated Corsica, fought in Italy, took part in the invasion of Europe and fought through the battles of France and Germany – from Normandy to Munich.
* Units from the French navy participated in the invasions of Sicily, Italy, Normandy and South France.
* Units of the French navy and merchant marine took part in convoying operations on the Atlantic and Murmansk routes.
* On June 5, 1944, the day before D-Day, over 5,000 Frenchmen of the resistance dynamited railroads in more than 500 strategic places.
* They delayed strategic German troop movements for an average of 48 hours, according to our military experts. Those 48 hours were tactically priceless ; they saved an untold number of American lives.
* French resistance groups blew up a series of bridges in southern France and delayed one of the Wehrmacht’s crack units (Das Reich Panzer Division) for twelve days in getting from Bordeaux to Normandy.
* About 30,000 FF1 troups supported the Third Army’s VIII Corps in Brittany: they seized and held key spogs ; they conducted extensive guerrilla operations behind the German lines.
* 25,000 FFI troops protected the south flank of the Third Army in its daring dash across France: the FFI wiped out German bridgeheads north of the Loire River ; they guarded vital lines of communication; they wiped out pockets of German resistance; they held many towns and cities under orders from our commmand.
* When our Third Army was approachiung the area between Dijon and Troyes from the west, and while the Seventh Army was approaching this sector from the South, it was the FFI who stubbornly blocked the Germans from making a stand and prevented a mass retirement of German troops.
* In Paris, as our armies drew close, several hundred thousand French men and women rose up against the Germans. 50,000 armed men of the resistance fought and beat the Nazi garrison, and occupied the main buildings and administrative offices of Paris.
@112:
104. “After France fell, the French laid down and let the Germans walk all over them. They just waited for us to liberate them. Why didn’t they put up a fight?”
Millions of French men, women and children put up a fight that took immense guts, skill and patience.
The Fighting French never stopped fighting - in the RAF North Africa, Italy, and up through France with the US 7th Army.
Here is how the French people inside France fought the Germans after the fall of France:
* They sabotaged production in war plants. They destroyed parts, damaged machinery, slowed down production, changed blue-prints
* They dynamited power plants, warehouses. transmission lines. They wrecked trains. They destroyed bridges. They damaged locomotives.
* They organized armed groups which fought the German police, the Gestapo, the Vichy militia. They executed French collaborationists.
* They acted as a great spy army for SHAEF in London. They transmitted as many as 300 reports a day to SHAEF on German troops’ movements, military installations, and the nature and movement of military supplies.
* They got samples of new German weapons and explosive powder to London.
* They ran an elaborate “underground railway” for getting shot-down American and British flyers back to England. They hid, clothed, fed and smuggled out of France over 4,000 American airmen and parachutists (Getting food and clothes isn’t easy when you’re on a starvation ration yourself. It’s risky to forge identification papers). Every American airman rescued meant half a dozen French lives were risked. On an average, one Frenchman was shot every two hours, from 1940 to 1944 by the Germans in an effort to stop French sabotage and assistance to the Allies.The Germans destroyed 344 communities (62 completely) for “crimes” not connected with military operations.
Perhaps the Germans realized better than we do the relentless fight against them which the French people waged.
An official German report, quoted in the Christian Science Monitor on December 26, 1942, stated sadly: “For systematic inefficiency and criminal carelessness they (the French) are unsurpassed in the history of modern industrial labor”.
Welcome, UN Spacy. Thanks for sharing that.
But on the international stage, the french screwed the pooch
After it was agreed with the joint declaration of war on germany by the UK and France, it was decided…
“Neither power shall surrender to germany unless the other consents to that surrender.”
When the german blitz cut off the Brits at Dunkirk and the road was open to Paris; what happened? Did france ‘need’ paris? was it their industrial base?, agricultural center? No…it was their cultural center, and when it was seriously threatened they surrendered, without even asking their allies or putting up resistance.
They caved to the Germans, and the Brits resented them for it, and the French resent the british for evacuating. In an alliance of convenience, driving a wedge bettwen the two parites (in this case the german blitz) is the best way to win. Divide and conquer so to speak.
France is looked down upon because, they could have fought on, it would be a struggle, a struggle for their country, however in surrendering they hoped their “nation” would be preserved, albeit under German occupation. The city of lights survived and so did millions of frenchmen, the musems and statues all endure to this day. But what does it say about a country not even willing to take up arms to protect its treasures, its people? a government that gives in to occupation, to survive as a nation in bondage. And herin lies the question, if the french didnt stand and fight for their own country, what does that say about it, is whatever cultural value it has worth fighting for? worth dieing for? Or are the french so progressive that they realize that these treasueres had to survive becuase they are so valueable, and surrender was the only option.
