2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV)

[trulpen]

Sorry, won’t post the rules soon. Have gotten too tired, but will hopefully be able to deliver tomorrow.

[WindowWasher]

@dawgoneit and @WindowWasher are dawgwasher

[trulpen]

@WindowWasher said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

@dawgoneit and @WindowWasher are dawgwasher

Sounds dirty. Or clean. Haven’t made up my mind yet. ;)

[trulpen]

Anyway, gold star for a very concise team name!

[axis-dominion]

adam-dominion

which happens to be true haha

[WindowWasher]

@axis-dominion thats a good one!

[trulpen]

We’ll go by Pejones.

[trulpen]

Suggestion for

TOURNAMENT RULES
Based on the League and adjusted

Feel free to criticise or suggest changes.

Tournament Director (TD)
Carries the main responsibility for the tournament.

The position is held by @trulpen through autocratic decision.

Tournament Arbiter (TA)
The arbiter’s function is to support conduct and rules implementation during the tournament. If need be, arbiters will make the final decision on any rule violation or other game dispute.

Head arbiter
@trulpen

Assisting arbiter
@gamerman01

Available game versions

• Axis & Allies G40.2 (also called OOB or vanilla)
• Axis & Allies BM3
• Axis & Allies P2V

Format
The tournament will be a round-robin where each team plays every other team once. The teams decide themselves when they want to play eachother.

There is no demand to play all games at once, but stalling will result in a loss.

Stalling is defined as when a team has no matches in progress and haven’t started one within two weeks after being challenged by another team.

For this reason a challenge has to be official and posted in the tournament thread.

Game location
Game threads has to be set-up in the tournament category for the convenience of the TD, arbiters, players and audience.

Game posts are exclusive for the specified game thread.

Scoring
A win is declared by either victory conditions or resignation and is awarded 1 point, while a loss results in 0 points.

Results
The standings are available online in this spread-sheet [insert juicy link]

Tiebreaker
Decided by the result of the direct encounter between teams.

Game rules
The basic rule-set is the published G40 2nd edition.

Rules are available as pdf:s for Europe and Pacific or a mobile friendly version of Global.

Additional standard rule-sets are the modifications of BM3 and P2V.

Default settings
If nothing else is stated, the following will be active.

• G40.2
• Regular dice (as opposed to low luck)
• No technology
• Bid to determine sides

Any default settings, whether it concerns rules, bidding or time-limits, may be modified by mutual agreement of the involved players.

Bidding
Not required, but normally used to ensure that both teams are satisfied with the side they are playing.

The bidding-process follows that one team begins by offering to play a side for a certain amount of IPC, then the other team may accept the bid or offer a counter-bid, which has to be lower. The process continues until one team has accepted the other team’s bid.

Default settings for bidding

• Only one bid unit in a territory or sea zone.
• The nation placing a unit in a territory or sea zone must have started with a unit in said territory or sea zone prior to placing the bid.
• China is limited to bid units of infantry, artillery and fighters (the units China is legally able to purchase or start the game with) and these units are still limited to movement/placement restrictions of Chinese units.

Posting schedule

Time limits
There is a 72 hour time-limit per move. This may be negotiated by the players at game start. If there is agreement upon different time-limits, it has to be posted as a prerequisite in the game thread before the actual game is started.

Vacations
Play can be paused for a total of 21 days without penalty by simply posting the need for a vacation. The duration of absence needs to be specified, although the reason does not.

72 h-warning
If 72 hours goes by and there is no game-play post from the opponent, that is at least a game decision made, then a warning may be created by posting “bump” along with the tagged team-players names and the number of the bump.

If it’s the second warning, it would look like this:

@NN @NN bump#2

Do not add any other text than the bump and player names in your warning post.

Warnings can be issued for posting of partial turns, OOL requests, map questions etc, but they follow the same 72 h requirement.

Any premature or retroactively issued 72 h-warnings will be void.

Consequence of 72 h-warnings
Each warning resets the clock for another 72 h.

On the 4th 72 h-warning the offending team may be disqualified and declared a loss for that game by request of the opposing team.

AWOL
If a turn is not posted within 14 days of either the previous turn post, request for a game decision or the end of a predetermined vacation, then the team failing to post may be disqualified and declared a loss for that game by request of the opposing team.

Posting results
Losing teams are responsible to post results in the tournament thread. This way it’s certain the losing team agrees with the game result. The winner may post the result when the game result was due to time limits.

Post the team names of the winner and loser, the sides each player played and provide a link to the game thread.

Exemplified by an axis-win, the prefered way for posting results is:

X vs A 1-0

where “X” represent the Axis-team and “A” the Allies-team.

The Axis should always be the team on the left and the Allies on the right.

If allies had won the result would’ve been 0-1.

Assumption
The purpose is to reduce the number of game stoppages for opponent decisions. Because you are assuming a decision for your opponent, the opponent must always be given the benefit of the doubt and arbiters will always decide in this manner.

When making an assumption, there’s a risk that the opponent will disagree after seeing the turn. If there is an issue with assumption, the teams should try and come to an agreement about how to handle it.

If there’s no agreement, then the defender can require that the entire battle(s) will be re-rolled.

Alternatively there may be requested an arbiter ruling by either side.

Order of play
From page 11 in the rulebook:

“Axis and Allies is played in rounds. A round consists of each power taking a turn. Your power’s turn consists of six phases, which take place in a fixed sequence. When you finish the Collect Income phase, your turn is over. Play then passes to the next power.”

You may only go back to previous phases/turns of the game and make changes with your opponent’s permission.

[trulpen]

Participants

Pejones (trulpen & Pejon_88)
adam-dominion (axis-dominion & Adam514)
Wittmann & Elrood
aequitas-et-veritas & brxxx
Gargantua & Karl7
regularkid & gamerman01
GeneralDisarray & DrakeMortis
Sovietishcat & Wizmark
majikforce & AndrewAAGamer
dawgwasher (dawgoneit & WindowWasher)
German Fuhrer & Co

[trulpen]

Will add a section in the rules about what constitutes a team.

[trulpen]

Suggestion for

TOURNAMENT RULES v2
Based on the League and adjusted

Feel free to criticise or suggest changes.

Tournament Director (TD)
Carries the main responsibility for the tournament.

The position is held by @trulpen through autocratic decision.

Tournament Arbiter (TA)
The arbiter’s function is to support conduct and rules implementation during the tournament. If need be, arbiters will make the final decision on any rule violation or other game dispute.

Head arbiter
@trulpen

Assisting arbiter
@gamerman01

Available game versions

• Axis & Allies G40.2 (also called OOB or vanilla)
• Axis & Allies BM3
• Axis & Allies P2V

Format
The tournament will be a round-robin where each team plays every other team once. The teams decide themselves when they want to play eachother.

There is no demand to play all games at once, but stalling will result in a loss.

Stalling is defined as when a team has no matches in progress and haven’t started one within two weeks after being challenged by another team.

For this reason a challenge has to be official and posted in the tournament thread.

Teams
Constituted by two active players, which decide between themselves which nations to play.

Full communication within the team is allowed.

External communication regarding game decisions should be avoided.

Game location
All games has to be played as PBF (play by forum) in order to be possible to follow for all involved parties.

Game threads has to be set-up in the tournament category for the convenience of the TD, arbiters, players and audience.

Game posts are exclusive for the specified game thread.

Scoring
A win is declared by either victory conditions or resignation and is awarded 1 point, while a loss results in 0 points.

Results
The standings are available online in this spread-sheet [insert juicy link]

Tiebreaker
Decided by the result of the direct encounter between teams.

Game rules
The basic rule-set is the published G40 2nd edition.

Rules are available as pdf:s for Europe and Pacific or a mobile friendly version of Global.

Additional standard rule-sets are the modifications of BM3 and P2V.

Default settings
If nothing else is stated, the following will be active:

• G40.2
• Regular dice (as opposed to low luck)
• No technology
• Bid to determine sides

Any default settings, whether it concerns rules, bidding or time-limits, may be modified by mutual agreement of the involved players.

Bidding
Not required, but normally used to ensure that both teams are satisfied with the side they are playing.

The bidding-process follows that one team begins by offering to play a side for a certain amount of IPC, then the other team may accept the bid or offer a counter-bid, which has to be lower. The process continues until one team has accepted the other team’s bid.

Default settings for bidding

• Only one bid-unit in a territory or sea zone
• The nation placing a bid-unit must have started with a unit in the territory or sea zone prior to placing the bid
• China is limited to bid-units of infantry, artillery and fighter, including their movement and placement restrictions

Posting schedule

Time limits
There is a 72 hour time-limit per move. This may be negotiated by the players at game start. If there is agreement upon different time-limits, it has to be posted as a prerequisite in the game thread before the actual game is started.

72 h-warning
If 72 hours goes by and there is no game-play post from the opponent, that is at least a game decision made, then a warning may be created by posting “bump” along with the tagged team-players names and the number of the bump.

If it’s the second warning, it would look like this:

@NN @NN bump#2

Do not add any other text than the bump and player names in your warning post.

Warnings can be issued for posting of partial turns, OOL requests, map questions etc, but they follow the same 72 h requirement.

Any premature or retroactively issued 72 h-warnings will be void.

Consequence of 72 h-warnings
Each warning resets the clock for another 72 h.

On the 4th 72 h-warning the offending team may be disqualified and declared a loss for that game by request of the opposing team.

Vacations
Play can be paused for a total of 21 days without penalty by simply posting the need for a vacation. The duration of absence needs to be specified, although the reason does not.

AWOL
If a turn is not posted within 14 days of either the previous turn post, request for a game decision or the end of a predetermined vacation, then the team failing to post may be disqualified and declared a loss for that game by request of the opposing team.

Posting results
Losing teams are responsible to post results in the tournament thread. This way it’s certain the losing team agrees with the game result. The winner may post the result when the game result was due to time limits.

Post the team names of the winner and loser, the sides each player played and provide a link to the game thread.

Exemplified by an axis-win, the prefered way for posting results is:

X vs A 1-0

where “X” represent the Axis-team and “A” the Allies-team.

The Axis should always be the team on the left and the Allies on the right.

If allies had won the result would’ve been 0-1.

Assumption
The purpose is to reduce the number of game stoppages for opponent decisions. Because you are assuming a decision for your opponent, the opponent must always be given the benefit of the doubt and arbiters will always decide in this manner.

When making an assumption, there’s a risk that the opponent will disagree after seeing the turn. If there is an issue with assumption, the teams should try and come to an agreement about how to handle it.

If there’s no agreement, then the defender can require that the entire battle(s) will be re-rolled.

Alternatively there may be requested an arbiter ruling by either side.

Order of play
From page 11 in the rulebook:

“Axis and Allies is played in rounds. A round consists of each power taking a turn. Your power’s turn consists of six phases, which take place in a fixed sequence. When you finish the Collect Income phase, your turn is over. Play then passes to the next power.”

You may only go back to previous phases or turns of the game and make changes with permission from your opponent.

[trulpen]

@trulpen said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

Participants

@Gargantua & @Karl7

Suppose it will be “KILL!”, no? ;)

[trulpen]

@trulpen said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

Tournament Arbiter (TA)
The arbiter’s function is to support conduct and rules implementation during the tournament. If need be, arbiters will make the final decision on any rule violation or other game dispute.

Head arbiter
@trulpen

Assisting arbiter
@gamerman01

We could use one more arbiter. Also, gamerman has not confirmed yet. Might change the title to just arbiter. The idea with an assisting arbiter is that the head arbiter shouldn’t rule in his own games.

[Karl7]

@trulpen said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

@trulpen said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

Participants

@Gargantua & @Karl7

Suppose it will be “KILL!”, no? ;)

We are: The Rum and the Fury!

[trulpen]

Participants

• Pejones (trulpen & Pejon_88)
• adam-dominion (axis-dominion & Adam514)
• Wittmann & Elrood
• aequitas-et-veritas & brxxx
• The Rum and the Fury (Gargantua & Karl7)
• regularkid & gamerman01
• GeneralDisarray & DrakeMortis
• Sovietishcat & Wizmark
• majikforce & AndrewAAGamer
• dawgwasher (dawgoneit & WindowWasher)
• German Fuhrer & Co

[trulpen]

@Karl7 said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

@trulpen said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

@trulpen said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

Participants

@Gargantua & @Karl7

Suppose it will be “KILL!”, no? ;)

We are: The Rum and the Fury!

Would you mind being Rum & Fury?

Just thinking of the bracket-table. :)

[trulpen]

@trulpen said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

@trulpen said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

Tournament Arbiter (TA)
The arbiter’s function is to support conduct and rules implementation during the tournament. If need be, arbiters will make the final decision on any rule violation or other game dispute.

Head arbiter
@trulpen

Assisting arbiter
@gamerman01

We could use one more arbiter. Also, gamerman has not confirmed yet. Might change the title to just arbiter. The idea with an assisting arbiter is that the head arbiter shouldn’t rule in his own games.

gamerman has confirmed, so we are two.

Would anyone else volunteer as arbiter?

[German Fuhrer]

@trulpen
I’m sorry I don’t think me and my partner will participate I had a different idea for what a tournament was.

[trulpen]

@German-Fuhrer said in 2 vs 2 tournament: A&A (G40, BM3, PtV):

@trulpen
I’m sorry I don’t think me and my partner will participate I had a different idea for what a tournament was.

No problem. What was your idea?

[WindowWasher]

when do we start? what do we do to get started?