In the game I’m playing now I’ve managed to keep Anzac from turnig into a little monster. What i did i think in the second round was I took new britain with 1 inf. My transport was safe as he couldn’t fly out and attack it. So this stops the anzacs from getting 5 dollars bonus also My opponent didn’t build a destoyer at the beginig and i was able to push a sub of queensland to disruptt convoys and take off two dollars. These things seemed to keep Anzac down as in other games we’ve played Anzac gets monsterous and is a real menace. Has anyone got some strategies to contain Anzac?
I love the Fact the anzacs are in this game its about time the yanks and Brits acknowledge the amazing contribution these two countries have made to the military conquests of the Western democracy’s in the last 100 years. If it wasnt for Aussies I think you all would have been stuffed that goes for world one in a massive way and world war to in a big way. Cheers.
If you have know idea do some reading on it.
I find it ironic that you show such big support for Australia and their contribution to the world wars, yet you start a thread discussing how best to have Japan beat them down.
You got a really good strategy there. That could keep ANZAC off balance for a while. Plus, if you kept your carrier stationed off the Carolines, when ANZAC does build a destroyer to go after your sub, you could fly them down and sink the destroyer right away. They wouldn’t be able to build more than 1 per turn and since NSW doesn’t have an airbase, they can’t even scramble any fighters to defend the destroyer. You could end up using that sub to convoy raid Australia for a long time.
By the way, by taking New Britain, you would end up costing ANZAC both of her NOs: the Island Group NO plus the NO for ANZAC having all original territories with Malaya under Allied control. The only improvement I would suggest is taking the Solomon Islands instead of New Britain. True, you risk losing your transport but it also adds to the 5 of 7 NO for Japan. Plus, if you have that carrier by the Carolines, you could send it to escort your transport. ANZAC would have to send ALL 3 of their fighters to get it and would risk losing at least 2 if not all 3 and possibly still not getting your transport.
after taking the DEI I send a task force, BB CR, 2 DD, maybe a sub or another DD, and i toast the Aussi fleet. Without the fleet, and without income to build it up quick enough to overcome a small task force in the carolines, the Aussis are neutralized.
I like to take the Solomon islands instead of new Britan it does the same thing to Anzac except it is part of the island bonus for USA and japan.
I am with Peck, it’s all about the Solomans. Suicide a transport if you must - but it’s a huge swing.
Next - or at the same time, make their ships a priority target. Smash them. And you’ll never hear from Anzac again.
Always remember that making Japan a viable economic threat to the Western powers is a top priority. Positioning your fleet to slam the United States fleet may seem like a good idea, but it is a top priority to take the money islands by J3, J4 at the absolute latest. If that hasn’t happened, you’ve probably lost.
I like to sub-choke the Anzac. Three subs can put a serious dent in a 10-IPC income.
after taking the DEI I send a task force, BB CR, 2 DD, maybe a sub or another DD, and i toast the Aussi fleet. Without the fleet, and without income to build it up quick enough to overcome a small task force in the carolines, the Aussis are neutralized.
The allied player just lets that happen?
i would like to ask what the british and americans were doing perhaps invading japan?
As Japan, I like to spend the first three turns building and loading transports in preparation for my attack. I stage forces at Japan and the Carolines. If you keep a big enough force in the Carolines ready for your first strike, you can put some pressure on Anzac to build (ultimately useless) infantry instead of a fighter or small navy. I wouldn’t recommend actually going for NSW unless it’s a slam dunk, (partly because it isn’t too hard for the US to retake and partly because it’s way out of your way), but if the Anzac player ignores your Carolines fleet, it can be very satisfying to snatch Syndey for a few rounds. If they bulk up their defense, I go for more conventional J3 targets (PH, DEI, Hawaii and the 7 NO islands). I always try to take the Solomons if I can, netting up to 15 lost IPCs a round for the allies.
When the Pacific war is in full swing, the state of the central Pacific usually depends on whether or not I was able to grab Hawaii (I’m a big fan of that move unless the US is going all out in the Pacific, in which case I just make the battles slow and ugly until Germany wins it all). If Hawaii is in my hands, I’ll usually send a small fleet down to take New Zealand, more to keep Anzac occupied than for the money. Basically, if Anzac is focused on liberating their islands, they won’t be landing fighters on recent US captures. If the US decides to help Anzac retake New Zealand, all the better. As Japan I would love it if a distraction like New Zealand occupied the navies of two of my opponents.
Hmm wel I suppose one thing is ANZAC sometimes goes unseen as its small and Calcutta seems like a bigger threat. Also I must say you seem pretty patriotic.
@mantlefan:
Yeah Gallipoli sure helped a lot. I understand it’s nice to feel like one’s country matters on a macro military level but it’s best to approach things rationally than with hubris.
Hey Boof Head,
Gallipoli was nothing! Have alook at the Western Front and how theAustralians turned things around for the allies when they Arrived. If your a Yank You can thank an Australian for being the only foreign commander to be given command of USA forces in a theatre of War in the Battle of Amiens which was the first battles fought by the Americans in ww1 and was a planning triumph by field Marshall Monash. They probably dont tell you about this on the History channel. The Australians and the Canadians won world war 1 by being far superior agressive seasoned troops and smart revolutionary tacticians. Gudarian the farther of blitzkreig achnowleges Monash as the First Commander to use Blitzing tactics.
well, thats a very American way of looking at things. Pattons doctrine was also, throw lead at them to keep their heads down and advance.
With a nation with less production power and less soldiers, innovative tactics are /their/ bread and butter.
Still I would like to note that Monash was not working in a vacuum, there were German, British and even french military theorists who were coming up with blitzkrieg tactics towards the end of WW1. Who was first? I believe JFC Fuller, but I’m sure we all have differing views on this.
Alright even though I’m quite patriotic myself I hsve to be neutral here. I’m from the good Ol Red Whire n Blue myself but I have to say that wars arn’t won by a sinlge country (that is unless only two or less are involved). Britain, France, and Russia held of the central powers until America, Italy, and other nations could push the Germans over the edge. However I am more learned in WWII and I must say the turning point was when America and Russia entered. Otherwise Britain would have been destroyed along with all her Dominions.
First a rule question:
Can ANZAC unilaterally declare war on Japan, without involving Great Britain ?
( This would allow them to collect their national objectives, during the first turn, but still keep, England safe from Japanese aggression - given that the Japanese wanted to keep the United States out of the war)
Secondly more blatant Aussie cheerleading: ( from a Yank here but married to an Aussie)
I agree that ANZAC is a great addition to the game and performs well !
( My wife said she bought me the game when she noted that Ancef was an independent power)
While believing that the Aussies, by no stretch of the imagination, when the war of neuroma or were instrumental in it.
I do believe they were quite impressive.
If I’m not mistaken, the first time the axis was successfully, altered in the war came at Tobruk – which was largely an Australian effort
That same division, ( the seventh I believe) was instrumental in handing the Japanese their first land based failure along with Kakoda Trail.
For a very entertaining / extremely readable synopsis of both contains I recommend:
The Peter Fitzsimmons books:
Tobruk and Kokoda
( both of which incidentally contain quite a bit concerning Chety Wilmott)
as far as the first war is concerned – I recommend Gallopili – by Les Carolyn; The writing is even better and Fitzsimmons which is saying a lot!!
I’m reading in now and find it hard to put down!
( I Always tried to read some Aussie based military book around ANZAC day)
Alright even though I’m quite patriotic myself I hsve to be neutral here. I’m from the good Ol Red Whire n Blue myself but I have to say that wars arn’t won by a sinlge country (that is unless only two or less are involved). Britain, France, and Russia held of the central powers until America, Italy, and other nations could push the Germans over the edge. However I am more learned in WWII and I must say the turning point was when America and Russia entered. Otherwise Britain would have been destroyed along with all her Dominions.
Of all the people to push the Central powers over the edge, Italy? All they did was stall Austria-Hungary, but with the state of Austria-Hungary, they weren’t helping the allies much. Italian military history has been mostly irrelevant since the Roman era, and Italians today aren’t really Romans anyways. In world war II they more or less accomplished nothing; their soldiers were not very motivated and the Germans were more relevant in the fighting in North Africa and Italy itself.
I’m not talking about just Italy. Do you think America could win a war today if all countries went against it even though our military is superior? The point is that the Central Powers lost because everyone got fed up with them and decided to join the fight. The main ally to aid Britain and France was the US however.
I don’t know what the Aussies accomplished…. but
Curie, leader of the Canadian Forces, at the DISGRACE of the British forces, was going to be made fully in-charge of Commonwealth forces if the war had continued another year.
Canadians developed the concept of the Rolling Barrage, thus taking Vimy Ridge in a single day - a position held for YEARS against British and French attacks. This tactic became a major stepping stone in turning the war into the Allies favour.
Canada went into WWI - thanks to many individual donors, with more Machine Guns, and Vehicles than the United Kingdom.
A Canadian shot down the Red Baron.
I have to say though, that if we all didn’t stand together, we all would have lost, alone.
It’s good to see ANZAC represented in the game finally… I hope Canada is next.
Gar theres a pretty cool house rule that make a nation called “Commonwealth” that makes bothe Canada and ANZAC. You should check it out.
As a Canadian myself I have great pride in our WWI and WWII efforts however one single countries efforts in any of these wars pales in comparison to the total effort by all countries. If it wasn’t for everyones combined efforts we would be living in a totally different world right now. Everyone made needed sacrifices to win.
