Do u have 2 take control of a territory once u defeated all defending units ?

Never mind, saw the answer on the next page.

They’re allies with each other and neutral territories are all neutral friendly.  The server still doesn’t recognize that quite right, though.  Sometimes they’ll take, say Saudi Arabia and control the territory, but there’ll still be 2 neutral troops sitting on there, so you have to change those to the controlling countries’.  And despite Finland and Bulgaria being unfriendly neutral, it’ll activate those troops, so you have to delete them and also roll dice to determine how many you’d have also lost in taking it.  By a weird quirk it treats the Allies as Axis, so Japan and Italy get all their bonuses.  Italy’s bonus would be convenient, since he only collects it once and it would go straight to my coffers.  But Japan’s bonus is annoying; he gets 25 bucks he doesn’t deserve each round - practically twice his base income, so that also needs to be routinely corrected.  Occasionally, one of the powers will declare war on each other at the most inopportune time for them to do so, like Russia doing it on Japan with Japanese troops uncontested in 2/3 of its territory.  His income immediately drops to half and all of his and Japan’s troops are distracted for a turn.  When you have control again, reset the diplomacy, return whichever territories to their original owner, and fix each country’s economy, but there’s nothing you can do about their troop movements.  And yes, I’ve been playing on hard, but based on Wild Bill’s experience, I might experiment with fast.

@Maddog77:

I actually put Japan markers (roundels) on the Chinese territories that Japan starts the game with. That way if those territories are liberated, we can remove the Japan marker and see the Chinese logo which indicates it is owned by China. Makes for an easy quick visual when counting IPC tally.

I do the same thing.  I just think it is easier marking the enemy controlled territories.  In this case, Japan just captured these territories before the game starts.

Thanks. I definitely focused on the Industrial Complex and Japan/China Sections in the rulebook.

@iandemel:

tell nutbar to play by alpha 2

Most people are playing 2nd edition rules, the Alpha rules are obsolete considering that 1st edition is out of print.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34418.0

Thank you for your last post.

The jerk part was a little pot shot at your username. My apologies.

@MadPup77:

You don’t have to wait a turn to hit Japan. You place them, next turn they’re in SZ 6. You place them in SZ 10, next turn Hawaii, next turn SZ 6.

-MadPup77

If you put a NB in Alaska, they can move in 1 turn into SZ 6, via SZ 8 and SZ 7.

Thanks for the post, Frank.  Yep, you pretty much summed up a few of the many reasons why OOB is fatally flawed, and you have the 30-35 games to back it up.

I get the feeling from my few games of Alpha2 so far (not going too crazy playing it - just a couple games at a time because it will probably be changed anyway) that the Allies still have a significant advantage in Alpha2.  But I have to admit none of the games have lasted even more than a few rounds (with the Axis getting obliterated each time) so maybe those oil field NO’s could really come into play sometimes I suppose.

To me, Russia and USA have suffocating power (Russia is very deep, and as Larry himself acknowledged - he wondered if it was 1 territory too deep), and the UK can be very powerful as well.