Europe Map Projection Redux

The map looks great.  I dont have any complaints and I assume that the final version will end up looking very much like this.

Map is coming along very well (have seen each upgrade). I would like to see some of the islands in the middle of sz’s for scrambling purposes, especially in the Med. Like Crete in the SZ adjacent to Greece, or Cyprus in the sz off the coast of Egypt (minor line change).
I was also wondering if Zealand (island in Danish straight) will be a playable space (separate from Denmark peninsula). If you moved the sz dividing line above the island then you could scramble from Copenhagen to give fleet protection in the Baltic. This would kinda create a close the straight rule for the Baltic. I think that would be good for the game. Just my 2 cents.

Your map looks pretty good, but what does it matter unless you work for WOTC

The Winter War is over when this game starts…

But I think Finland should be NEutral/Axis leaning and get a full ally (GErmany controlled) when Germany attacks Russia  - Same as Romania - Bulgaria should “acivate” when Germany attacks Greece.

Concerning “value” of territories…

I don’t think its “real world production” alone that determines the “worth” of a territory.

Finland had a small GDP (Comparably), but an excellent Army, so in the game a high “production” value is OK

Belgium/The Netherlands had a good industrial base, but the Army was either small or ill equipped, so a low IPC output is OK

Norway is difficult, I assume low IPC is OK based on history, but Germany should get NO-bonus points while occupying as Norway provided Germany with Swedish ore and also was a great base for air/ship based convoy harrassment.

German NO-Controls all of the flowing territories-Norway, Finland and Sweden must be pro-axis or axis.

@Richter:

The Winter War is over when this game starts…

But I think Finland should be NEutral/Axis leaning and get a full ally (GErmany controlled) when Germany attacks Russia  - Same as Romania - Bulgaria should “acivate” when Germany attacks Greece.

Concerning “value” of territories…

I don’t think its “real world production” alone that determines the “worth” of a territory.

Finland had a small GDP (Comparably), but an excellent Army, so in the game a high “production” value is OK

Belgium/The Netherlands had a good industrial base, but the Army was either small or ill equipped, so a low IPC output is OK

Norway is difficult, I assume low IPC is OK based on history, but Germany should get NO-bonus points while occupying as Norway provided Germany with Swedish ore and also was a great base for air/ship based convoy harrassment.

I fail to see the relevance of army strength, surely IPC values should reflect economic value; in any case the NL/B armies are already defeated.  By all means give Finland enough units to reflect it’s army establishment, but economically it was a midget.

@Flashman:

I fail to see the relevance of army strength, surely IPC values should reflect economic value….

Well, IMHO  :wink: once again we get mired by the charming vagueness of the game, IPCs really being Military Production Certificates capturing the ability to field units which involves a myriad of factors outside the scope of the game mechanics that we love despite failing to differeniate between endless horde infantry mills and tech savvy arsenals of democracy.

PRETTY COOL INDEED…U MIGHT BE VERY CLOSE TO THE REAL THING

Sicily should be worth 1 to make it worth attacking
also Ottawa is totally in the wrong place  :mrgreen:

Do you work for WOTC?

I bet your map will probably be better than what WOTC puts out and with less typos too

@oztea:

new template
No IPC values just yet

Great job!

Minor points:
Sweden has too many ee’s!
Canadian capital should be on Ontario side of Quebec border.
And Nunavut should be Northwest Territories.

@oztea:

i also forgot to lable cyprus

Nunavut is Nunavut because i think there is already a northwest territoreis space in pacific….or is that yukon territory…i cant remember

I think it’s Yukon.

Yukon and British Columbia

Some thioughts:

I start from the OLD Europe Map.

Yiours has some features that seem Ahistorical …

AMERICAS

Canada - I think there wont be that many provinces: merge Newfoundland with Quebec, Merge Manitoba and Nunavut (or whats called)
USA - I had hoped that the US is split into NewEngland, Old South and Great Plains (add NewOrleans as another VC please ;)
South America - I think Brazil should start as NEUTRAL Allies leaning…
Guyana could should be UK, but I think it will be left out.
I’d suggest to Split Argentine int 2 (Chile)
Wondering if Equador, Paraguay and Uruguay should be on the map too

AFRICA

North Africa looks good to me (maybe a VC to Lybia)

I do not like the look of the Congo/Nigeria area - I especially hate the SouthWest Africa “label” Its so wrong…
Another territory carved from the Sahara - Tchad
Mediterranian- another SZ splitting Corisca and added Baleares
Malta SZ splited into East and West
Create SZ splitted to North and South

ASIA

Split Transjordan into Palestine and Transjordan
Split Persia to North and South
Split Dheli to Baluchistan and Bombay (instead of Dheli)
Instead Yemen better Aden (in the 40s)
Add Kuwait as UK posession NOT bordering Transjordan.

EUROPE PROPER

I LOVE Green Spain ;)

AUstria SHOULD CZ and Hungaryare too much in the East

Austria should be between Bavaruia and Northern Italy and not Bordering Bulgaria
Italy could be one more territory maybe
Add Bessarabia teritory- bordering Romania instead of Hungary
Instead Novgorod /(city) better Karelia(merge karelia/rename

BTW I loved the Circle treatment of the russian Cities in old AAE ;)

Yugoslavia should border Greece

I believe Vyborg should be smaller and Karelia extend to Encompass the Kola peninsula which is now falsely treated as part of Finland

Finland, Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania should start Neutral - Axis leaning IMHO

BTW - great job you did here