France NO, question

@P@nther:

Guys, you have been misleaded … the OP thought it was a good idea to post his Anniversary-related question here in the Global forum.

@LHoffman:

Yes, I only posted it here because rules are similar and this board gets far more traffic than the Anniversary board.

It was fully disclosed as such when I posed it. If people read it before thinking they knew the answer, that would help.

@P@nther:

@taamvan:

You have 4 choices with every ship separately and independently …

This part is correct for every WWII edition at least back to and including Anniversary Edition.

Thank you. That is all I was asking.

The rules do not state this explicitly. Considering the naval retreat rule in which the attacker retreats with naval units and they all must go back to a single sea zone from which at least one ship came… I thought it plausible that a similar ‘all or nothing’ rule may apply here.

That’s what it means.

@Krieghund:

@coachofmany:

That contains enemy combant ships? I did not know that.

Only if they’re subs.

Thanks +1 for you!

Thank you Krieg!

@Sgt.:

But, can you move a fighter in non-combat to a territory which borders a seazone with a newly built carrier and have it land on said carrier? I’m guessing not.

You’re guessing correctly.  The fighter must end its movement in the sea zone in order to land on the carrier.

@Krieghund:

Just as other ships may, submarines may also move out of a sea zone where they begin their turn with enemy ships, even destroyers.  The destroyer doesn’t stop the sub’s movement, as the sub didn’t enter the sea zone - it started off there.

Put that in the FAQ

@uffishbongo:

The one involving Archangel says there must be “no other Allied forces…”

This is probably a stupid question, but does that include AA guns?  I’m so used to retreating the British gun to Caucasus and now I may have knocked out 5 of my own IPC’s by doing so.   :x

That is an Allied force (a UK AAA).

This is covered in the errata thread, btw, I believe.

Flying Tiger is correct.  Sorry if my original post was unclear.  :oops: I’ll try again.

You place an existing fighter on a new carrier by moving the fighter in either combat or noncombat movement, whichever applies, into the sea zone where the new carrier will be mobilized.  Air units don’t actually “land” until the end of the Mobilize New Units phase, though they must be in the space in which they will land by the end of noncombat movement.  The active player may only move pieces from one space to another during the combat movement and noncombat movement phases.

In Classic A&A, you can’t place fighters (new or existing) on new carriers at all.  In Revised, you can place existing fighters on a new carrier in the way you described in your original post.  In LHTR, it works the same way as it does in AA50.