Strategic Bombing of Germany

I hope you play the rules right. Germany can’t be bombed any further than a loss of 20 IPC to repair the damage. But that’s only when you want to produce 10 units. If you only want to produce 8, there is no need to spend more than 18 IPC on repairing damage.

Although it hurts, SBR-ing isn’t as effective as it once was.  :wink:

p.s. with tech it gets even better for Germany. :wink:

I think it is more effective since now one country can do 200% damage than they could before.

Before Germany could only be hit for MAX 10 IPC.  Now they can be hit for MAX 20 IPC.

rpv173,  Read this thread.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=12966.0

Also, where is Japan during this time?  If UK and USA were building nothing but bombers, how did they contain Japan?

Bombers are also 3 bucks cheaper now, making SBRs more tempting.

There is anything you can do to stop the Allies from bombing you if they buy loads of bombers. That said, you also had very poor luck in shooting them down. You cant do anything about very poor luck besides minimizing your risk of it.

I would have somehow tried to attack the bombers wherever they were parked and destroy as many as possible. Its a hard tactic to fight against the bombing raids with that many machines coming in. The AA gun is a slim hope without radar tech.

Well, shooting down zero bombers is an anomaly that should correct itself the more games you play.

I say return the favor.

With the UK spending all of their money on bombers then Italy should have no trouble in Africa and Japan should take India early and be making in the 50’s rather quickly. With that kind of income Japan can easily afford 1 or 2 bombers per turn and still make headway on all of their fronts. Japanese bombers in India can hit both of Russia’s big IC’s and any surplus bombers can go to Germany and begin paying the UK back for bombing Germany. Plus, Japanese bombers in Germany and India can also help the Italians keep the Med clean of Allied shipping.

Well, in my opinion, in the 41’ scenario people get greedy as Germany and make an ill advised attack on Egypt on G1.

I think it’s best to transport 2 units to Libya with Germany and leave 2 units in Bulgaria for landing in Egypt on G2. That’s a total of 8 units(6 in Lib,2 inf Bul)+available air to threaten Egypt which should be enough to make the UK retreat on their turn and give the Italians a free walk in.

Yes, well, the average cost per bombing run is down from 3 IPC to 2 IPC and the average gain hasn’t changed, so why not SBR?

And who cares about containing Japan when you get to own all of Europe with Russia?  By the time Japan can take Russia, Russia’s got an income of insane proportions. (Though I’d let France fall to England or America since Russia cannot get the NO for it.)

@Cmdr:

I think it is more effective since now one country can do 200% damage than they could before.

Before Germany could only be hit for MAX 10 IPC.  Now they can be hit for MAX 20 IPC.

This is incorrect. Germany could be hit 10 IPC MAX, per countries turn. This was potentially a 30 IPC Max on Germany per round if Russia somehow SBRed as well. But realistically, 20 IPC max. In revised, this was 20 IPC in real money, in the new game, Germany doesn’t have to spend the full 20. And if they don’t, the max damage is even less next round.

But if Germany does not spend the money, they cannot build the units either.  So the reduced impact of not repairing is offset by reduced production. (No more 10 infantry in Germany, whew!)

Also, I think you kind of realize what you said when you said technically Germany could be hit for 10 more by Russia in Revised.  So I won’t expound upon that.

Lastly, I think it’s important to note that one country can do 200% damage now, so you don’t need bombers for everyone.  America could sit there and build nothing but bombers and do 32 IPC damage to Germany/Italy each round allowing England and Russia a chance to do the hard work of taking the soil.

@Cmdr:

Lastly, I think it’s important to note that one country can do 200% damage now, so you don’t need bombers for everyone.  America could sit there and build nothing but bombers and do 32 IPC damage to Germany/Italy each round allowing England and Russia a chance to do the hard work of taking the soil.

Ok, i see your point now, that only one of the allies has to take on a SBR campaign in AA50. Where as in Revised, both UK and USA had to commit to that. I honestly don’t like the Germany restricted in AA50. One IC? sure, maybe its designed that they get Karelia. But UK can deny them Karelia if they wanted to. And when you play with NOs, Germany is earning 50+ and 10 production spots. Its work for me, as I like buying bombers with Germany, but I also end up buying a lot more tanks in AA50. It seems like Germany is pigeoned into a panzer dash to moscow framework. The options seem way more limited in this version for the Germans!!

Yea, those NOs are really darn annoying.  So easy for Germany and Japan both to be getting 50+ while the allies are scrambling to keep 30ish.

Oh, and if England helps with Karelia, then Russia loses 5 IPC a round.

@rpv173:

He built a complex in egypt the first turn. I tried to take it with italy and germany but once again rolled some crappy dice. i eventually took control of africa with japan, but it didnt matter. he had about 10 bombers sitting in england i only had a couple of ftrs but they were defending my tanks. nothing i could do.

Well if you AND fail to take Egypt with an IC on it on I2 AND you fail to take down 25 bombers in the whole game, than it has nothing to do with strategy but only with bad dice.

By the way, I am curious how UK is able to hold an Egypt factory…, even with no G1 attack the axis should overrun this on the second turn… don’t tell me Japan didn’t attack those ships before the coast of India either…