The KAR/CAU NO vs the "No US/UK in Russia" NO

I thought the secret in 42, was to maintain a navy in the baltic?

I could be mistaken…

same. mine are the same except 1942 has more detail.

I have never bought Russian naval units in any game, and I can’t recall that I have ever seen it either. Imo, it’s difficult enough to win games against decent players w/o deliberately trying to lose. Better to resign then… :-)

Yup.

Oh, I’m not saying I proposed the perfect attack force.  Certainly if you ONLY care about the BBs and not the subs, an ALL airforce attack force would be best.  I just took the OP’s germany attack force and modulated it as he suggested - first removing the DDs (which as I expected gave him a slight improvement) and then replacing them with additional subs as he described.

when you say ‘5 bom, 1 CA, 4 sub, 0 DD against 4 BB and 4 sub is less then 7%.’ I’m not sure what you’re saying or where you get that from.  The sim I used said it would be about 9% to clear the zone completely and only about 4% possiblity that any of the BB’s survive.  Maybe I’m doing something wrong, or the Sim I’m using is buggy with its order of loss.  :?  Any hits from the fodder boats (CA, 4 Sub) would be taken first against the subs, but once those fodder boats are gone, or the subs are gone, it’s bombers against BBs. and most times it seems the Bombers should win out.

Now that I think about it, the one thing that may not be factored into the sim is that it would make sense for the defender to take any boat hit against the defending subs.  The sim probably automatically assigns the first 4 hits to damage the BBs even if they come from other boats, which would be sub-optimal, given the bombers can ONLY hit the BBs, so you want to direct any non-Bomber hits to the subs.  I guess it would take a pretty clever sim to really get good numbers on this.  :|

Thank you all for your comments so far :-)

Yes, I think it is very tricky. As USA and UK you may build 1+1 bomber per turn, bombing Germany to the stone age, while building up a strong fleet. Just the threat of a heavy invasion is enough to fortify France with Italian and German infantry and fighters.

I tried to defend France hard with Italian and German inf. and fighters, and stand with nothing in NWE. Then I simply try to take NWE back with “enough troops” and the whole Luftwaffe. But it didn’t work the last time. When UK and USA goes Germany first, the key is to invade Russia quickly with Japan. (I was one turn to late, last time.)

In my group, we think that Germany is really hard to play.

@sala33:

*Battleship/Cruise bombarbment: If you have only ONE transporter, and in support 7 Battleships and 5 Cruisers, do all Battleships and Crusisers take place in the shore Bombarbment?

And if your transporter has your infintry and a friendly tank, do all the units get off loaded in that turn?
If so, does the friendly unit then fight with your attack on the land, or does it stay out of the battle till that players turn

When a shore bombarbment takes place and the attacker hits defending shore units, do the shore units get a chance to fire back, or are they taken off the board straight away?

1.  No.  The number of bombardments you have is limited to the number of ground troops you bring. (One transport = 2 bombards MAX).
2.  No.  Only your infantry can unload this turn.  You have to wait for your friendly ally’s turn for him to unload.
3.  Yes, they do get to fire back.