Island hopping is great, but its not critical. Sometimes just having a presense in the region will do just great. This is how I build my fleets…… My flagships are my carriers. They are great for defense and their fighters can support amphibious assaults. I will have no less than 2. I then will support my fleet with destroyers. I try to build 2 for every carrier. If you build destroyers and in order to get more bang for your buck, get combined bombardment. This will increase your amphibious firepower drastically. Basically you’ll be able to do the job of a battleship at half the cost and twice the firepower. Then build the rest of your force out of transports and a couple of submarines. If you use this fleet right, you will have everyship being productive on every aspect, offense, defense, and logistics. Your maximizing your money and strength. Lets take a fleet of 2 AC’s, 6 destoyers, 2 subs, 4 troopships with 2 tanks, 2 artillary, and 4 infantry. You attack the phillipines with an amphibious assault. the 6 destroyers should pretty much wipe out all opposition. But if not, you have 4 fighters and all the ground units to clean up. Battle should be over without losing anything. Your fighters land for fleet defense. Basically you have a fleet that can hit hard on land and sea. Your enemy will think twice before hitting you.
LHTR 2.0 revision
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Think of it this way, at least they changed it so your fighter and bomber pilots can be smart enough to retreat, even if your infantry, artillery and tanks cannot!
Can’t even begin to guess the number of 2nd ed games I lost because I was afraid to attack because if the battle went bad I’d lose my fighters and bombers too.
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The way I read the mixed attack rule…
The land units were already moved into the contested territory, so even if the amphib units do not show up, the units that walked/rolled in still have to fight it out for one round before they can retreat (combat MOVEMENT had already occurred before the naval battle was fought and lost)
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I think the question is whether or not the land units can retreat after the first round of combat if all the amphibious units were sunk in the naval engagement before landing.
Honestly, I’d say no. It was am amphibious assault when declared and it cannot change just because your landing craft were killed off.
I could be wrong though.
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If no navally landed units actually make the landing, it is no longer an amphib.
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@Cmdr:
Can’t even begin to guess the number of 2nd ed games I lost because I was afraid to attack because if the battle went bad I’d lose my fighters and bombers too.
I can’t say it lost me games, but I recall how annoying it was and remember first reading the rule adjustment in AAE (or was it AAR?) and going “sweet.”
And who knows, since aircraft have gained a retreat option over the years, maybe they’ll eventually give non-amphibous units the same option.
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They should. It should be made a house “official” rule for tournaments.
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LHTR 2.0, page 19 (Amphibious Assaults):
If no land units survived the sea combat, or if the attacking sea units withdrew from the sea combat, then any other units that were designated to participate in the land attack (including air units) must still conduct one round of land combat in a regular attack on the intended hostile territory before they may withdraw.
I hope this clears things up!
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Thank you Kreig for finding the specific reference to back me up :-)
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And who knows, since aircraft have gained a retreat option over the years, maybe they’ll eventually give non-amphibous units the same option.
Yeah I think over time the rules will become more logical.
Depend on which post you read (at harrisdesign) LHTR 2.0 was just short of some changes.
To me it should have been called LHTR 1.4 or something. -
@Craig:
Yeah I think over time the rules will become more logical.
Depend on which post you read (at harrisdesign) LHTR 2.0 was just short of some changes.
To me it should have been called LHTR 1.4 or something.There are reasons (that will become quite evident eventually) why an thorough edit good was embarked upon and put forth as v2.0.
Craig
You know, I used the same reason at a bar posing as a government agent.
“Young miss, there are reasons - that will become quite evident eventually - why you must remove your underwear right here right now.” 8-)
“Orly?” :?
“Yarly. We is teh gub-mint. We don’t lie.” 8-)
“Uhm, okay?” :|
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