Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone)

  • 2007 AAR League

    way left.  they are acting like obama cheerleaders.  enough so that even the clintons are complaining about it.


  • It’s bad when you say your are fair and balanced but swing off center more than anyone else.

    And reality has a liberal bias.  That’s why the media seems like it.


  • I never said that media is not biased, I just don’t lump all media as being solely liberal or solely conservative trash talking platforms.  I think many do slant one way or the other but what makes it agregious is that they are presenting the information in an entertainment fashion in order to get views not because they give a damn about informing people.  I am sorry bung but I thought you were calling me stupid soley for having an opinion which slants me to the left.


  • @Cmdr:

    How many of you democrat boosters who are male (which I believe is the entire audiance who identifies with the democrat party on this forum) would vote for John McCain if the Governor of Alaska was his running mate?

    The Governor is Sarah Palin and she is 42 Years Old.  She’s considered the sexiest woman in politics today.

    http://www.zimbio.com/Sarah+Palin+for+Vice+President/covers

    I’d do her.  :-D


  • If I were an enemy of America, McCain is the ONE guy I sure as hell wouldn’t vote for.

    Hence, I say “McCain for President”.

    Clinton’s too caught up in fripperies, Obama’s too young and idealistic.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Between:

    Huckabee
    Romney
    Thompson
    Paul
    McCain

    The one our enemies would prefer MOST is McCain.

    Between:

    Hillary
    Obama
    McCain

    The ones our enemies would most prefer is Obama.

    But comparing the least liberal of the liberals to other liberals does NOT make him conservative.



    As for the media, we’ve known for decades they’re hopelessly biased.  Why do you think President Reagan dissolved the legislation stopping political speech on the radio!?!?  Because he KNEW the only chance he had for fair reporting on what was happening in government was over the air waves, since the video news was in the art of MAKING the news, not REPORTING the news anymore. (Had stopped in the mid 1960’s actually after nearly a century of being good after starting the Spanish American war.)

    Sure, Fox is attempting to balance out CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN, but it’s still 1:4 and thus, not really fair and balanced yet.

    If the media is going to be a booster for Obama and slander the Clintons, great!  It’s about time the Clintons get treated like the media treats Republicans.  Maybe they’ll start to realize the monster they created in the 90’s by turning them loose to slander the good names of strong conservatives to force them to retire and thus not oppose the communist programs being supported by the elected Democrat elite.

    Just my opinion however.  Anything that keeps dems tearing at each others throats is good for America!

  • 2007 AAR League

    fully agreed


  • Some of you sound wayyyyyy too partisan.

    If there was a candidate for the opposing party that you liked more than your party of choice would you vote for them?  Would you even admit that you like them?  Would you vote for a third party candidate, even if they realistically had no hopes of winning?

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    I’m sorry.  I think using partisan as a way to slam someone’s position in the political arena is rather ridiculous.  Everyone is partisan!  Being partisan means you have opinions and you support them until you are proven incorrect or until the end of time (because you are correct.)

    I don’t want to elect a non-partisan.  I want the most d@mn partisan conservative I can bloody well find and I want to get him (or her) into office and the most like him or her into congress as possible.  Why should we get wishy-washy flip-floppers with no opinions of their own and no convictions whatsoever into office?  How is that good for the country?  You think Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Jackson or the other Presidents in our past were NON partisan!?!?


  • i would vote for a Dem IF i agreed with there policies and thought they were making the right choices. i would vote 3rd party if they had a chance to win (Ross Poriot for example had a chance), i wouldn’t vote for a 3rd party if they had a chance like Ron Paul if he ran 3rd party based on his support now at least; unless i found there to be no one i could tolirate in one of the two parties. I am not loyal to a party, i am loyal to ideals as people should be.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Honestly, I’ve always voted for the man’s platform.  However, I seem to be doing more voting for the lesser of the evils I have a choice of instead of for someone whom I believe in.

    I vote Democrat a lot for Congress.  I vote Republican a lot for Senate.  Mainly because Dick Durbin is the most evil, vile and dispicable person I know who is currently living and breathing.  I’m sure at home he’s a great father.  But when it comes to leadership his attitude towards our own soldiers (he believe Gitmo is WORSE then Auschwitz was!  I have the recordings of him speaking about it!) and his anti-American rhetoric (wants to expand NAFTA to all nations, wants unlimited amnesties for Mexicans, wants legislation shutting down ALL coal and nuclear power plants in America, etc) is so far bad that you could run Hitler against him and get my vote.  Actually, you could run Mao Tse Tung, Ho Chi Minh, King George or Bill Clinton against him, and I’d vote for them this year!

    Luckily, the guy running for his seat is a pediatrician.  I can’t WAIT to vote for him!  He wants to hamstring attorneys so that lawsuits cost the attorney money when they fail.  He wants to force the insurance companies to defer to the doctor’s judgement instead of legislating that service providers must perform every test for any given symptom, even if the tests are obviously a waste of time.  He also wants the consumer to determine if they want a more expensive proceedure if the consumer wants it, even if their insurance won’t cover it and to stop the insurance companies from saying that if the consumer GETS that treatment, then NONE of the treatments will be covered.

    Sounds like he has a MUCH better plan to fix health care then Universality.  IMHO.  Which makes sense.  Hillary was working for a nurse for 8 hours to learn about health care.  He’s been working with sick children and frantic parents and the insurance companies for 30 years.  I think he knows more about it then her.  Maybe. :P

    As for President.  Honestly, McCain’s only selling point is that he’ll trust the generals to do their job.  That does NOT out weigh his stance on security, his stance on amnesty, his stance on taxes (he wants to restore the death tax for instance, and to sun-set the Bush tax cuts which is a de-facto increase in my taxes of 7% at least).  Not to mention McCain’s on record of not only voting for the limits on Freedom of Speech, but actually co-Authoring the bill to limit our freedom of speech! (Campaign Finance Reform - you cannot create a new ad within 30 days of an election, so if it turns out Candidate B enjoys burning babies alive, and it’s 29 days before the election, you cannot tell us!)


  • @Cmdr:

    Between:

    Huckabee
    Romney
    Thompson
    Paul
    McCain

    The one our enemies would prefer MOST is McCain.

    Between:

    Hillary
    Obama
    McCain

    The ones our enemies would most prefer is Obama.

    Have you been talking to the enemy?  How would you know any of this?

    As for the media, we’ve known for decades they’re hopelessly biased.  Why do you think President Reagan dissolved the legislation stopping political speech on the radio!?!?  Because he KNEW the only chance he had for fair reporting on what was happening in government was over the air waves, since the video news was in the art of MAKING the news, not REPORTING the news anymore. (Had stopped in the mid 1960’s actually after nearly a century of being good after starting the Spanish American war.)

    Sure, Fox is attempting to balance out CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN, but it’s still 1:4 and thus, not really fair and balanced yet.

    If the media is going to be a booster for Obama and slander the Clintons, great!  It’s about time the Clintons get treated like the media treats Republicans.  Maybe they’ll start to realize the monster they created in the 90’s by turning them loose to slander the good names of strong conservatives to force them to retire and thus not oppose the communist programs being supported by the elected Democrat elite.

    Just my opinion however.  Anything that keeps dems tearing at each others throats is good for America!

    It’s time for you to learn that media really only has a self bias.  “It’s about time the Clintons get treated like the media treats Republicans.”  WTF does that even mean?  Do you not remember someone named Monica Lewinsky?

    Politicians get treated like crap when they are shown to be hypocritical or bad characters.  It’s not because they are Republican, and Democrats get their fair share.  Anything that points out how bad a politician is will get attention.  That’s all they want.  Partisan is right.  You’re too worried about making the Democrats and liberals look bad that you have forsaken your own beliefs.  Or did you have any to begin with seeing as how someone can turn on Rush and hear the same damn thing.


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  • 2007 AAR League

    if people can use the “W” as dub-ya  do disrespect bush

    why cant people say hussein for obama.

    the media has freaked out on this one.

    and what if hillary does win texas and ohio and it grinds out until their convention.  and then what if she gets more superdelegates and wins.  am i the only one that is thinking that democrats would wade into each other like lions about to kill an injured animal.  that would be true entertainment for the world.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Actually, Jermo, I’ve spoken to the “enemy”

    Have you?  Or were you warm and comfy here at home?

    Watch your attacks or they will back fire.  It’s no secret the enemy would love nothing better then a liberal in the White House, preferably one who supports rapid redeployment of our forces elsewhere.  It’s also no secret that our friends, and they are many, in Iraq are terrorized we WILL elect a liberal who will stop Gen. Petreayus and all the good he’s done in just over a year.

    So who would be most liked by the enemy?  Which of the candidates are talking surrender, which are talking staying the course?


  • Last warning… Candidates, or locked.

  • 2007 AAR League

    mine was about candidates.

    so, predictions for tuesday?

    clinton will win ohio.  i’m not so sure about texas.  probably texas too, it seems the hispanics arent thrilled about obama.

  • 2007 AAR League

    more dirt on obama.

    he denied that he sent a member of his staff to talk to the canadians about his nafta statements.  then canada sends a government message to the american media saying the meeting did happen.  obama got caught lying red handed and how does the media portray it? they say he “misspoke”    makes me freaking sick.  even hillary is saying to the media “how would you portray it if it were my campaign?”  and the media doesn’t like themselves in their own limelight showing their own hypocracy.  good move clinton.

    the whole issue was obama said that he’d unilaterally redo the nafta agreements without even consulting canada.  then he tells the canadians dont listen to what i’m saying, b/c its just for me to tell the voters and its not true.    thats huge, and i hope he gets called out on it.  but alas, democrats are a lying covering up bunch and the media is trying to get this one to go away.


  • @Cmdr:

    Actually, Jermo, I’ve spoken to the “enemy”

    Have you?  Or were you warm and comfy here at home?

    Watch your attacks or they will back fire.  It’s no secret the enemy would love nothing better then a liberal in the White House, preferably one who supports rapid redeployment of our forces elsewhere.  It’s also no secret that our friends, and they are many, in Iraq are terrorized we WILL elect a liberal who will stop Gen. Petreayus and all the good he’s done in just over a year.

    So who would be most liked by the enemy?  Which of the candidates are talking surrender, which are talking staying the course?

    Ron Paul is a liberal?

  • Moderator

    Jen has stated that she would only vote for Paul because he would be the lesser of 3 evils (McCain, Obama/Celery, or Paul if he ran as a 3rd Party Candidate)… I doubt very many people on the Republican side in this forum strongly support his Non-Interventionist Policies… He’s more liked for his Economic Policies and Support for Civil Liberties (at least that is what I can ascertain from this discussion)…

    GG

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