TGC (Germans) vs. Ragnell804 (Allies) Game 2 Original Europe




  • @Ragnell804

    I added back too many German infantry in Finland, fixed: G1 NCM omfg final.tsvg


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland
            1 armour moved from Archangel to Finland
            2 infantry moved from Archangel to White Sea Sea Zone
            2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from White Sea Sea Zone to Barents Sea Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Finland
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Moscow to Finland
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Finland
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 5 infantry
                Germans defend with 3 fighters and 5 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 5 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Finland
                    4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Finland, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Finland, round 3 : 4/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Russians, 1 armour owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Russians lost in Finland
                    1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
                Germans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -20
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 5 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 5 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour moved from Siberia to Karelia
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Karelia
            2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Karelia
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Russia
            1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Russia
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Siberia to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
            1 armour moved from Caucasus to Syria
            2 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia
            1 aaGun, 1 armour and 4 infantry moved from Moscow to Belorussia
            1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Turkestan to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to East Poland
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
    
        Place Units - Russians
            8 infantry placed in Leningrad
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 2.00
    Russians regular : 1.67
    

  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Palestine to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
            2 destroyers, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Libya
            2 infantry moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Libya
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Libya
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 2 destroyers in Libya, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Libya
                British win, taking Libya from Germans with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Stalingrad
    
        Place Units - British
            2 destroyers placed in Davis Strait Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 24 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Units Change Ownership
                Some Units in Stalingrad change ownership: 1 bomber
                Some Units in Leningrad change ownership: 2 fighters
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    British regular : 0.00
    

  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 25 to 17
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Americans buy 1 bomber and 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from United States to Davis Strait Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                British loiter and taunt; Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport
                Germans defend with 3 submarines
                    Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Americans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                    2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Casualties for Germans: 3 submarines
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Iceland
            1 bomber moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to United Kingdom
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 destroyers placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            1 bomber placed in United States
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Leningrad: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Leningrad: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Stalingrad: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Stalingrad: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Iraq: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Syria: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 41 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.67
    Germans regular : 0.67
    

    Allies1.tsvg



  • @Ragnell804

    G2 CM.tsvg

    Subs work like they do in 1914 in this game (and in Pacific). In the battle off Canada, the surviving German sub would submerge in lieu of returning fire. I am going to edit back in a German sub as well as a USA destroyer.

    Oddly enough and just so you know going forward, the UK destroyers could have been selected as casualties in the fight started by the USA. Shit you not. Check this out from page 26:

    German Submarines vs. Allied Ships
    If one of the Allies attacks a German submarine while other Allied naval units are present in the same sea zone, the combined Allied forces may chose any one of their ships as a casualty if the sub successfully returns fire.

    Anyway, it may be best to use the independent dice roller when attacking subs. I will do so now for the fight against the Russian navy up top:

    sub surprise strikes [dice 2d6]


  • 2d6: 1, 5


  • @Ragnell804 the transport will disappear

    now the German fighters roll [dice 3d6]


  • 3d6: 3, 2, 6


  • @Ragnell804

    but these rolls are now inconsequential since aircraft can’t hit subs so they will be ignored.

    so now the big question in this cascade of sequential combat, would you like to return fire with the Russian sub or submerge? You cannot do both.


  • @Ragnell804 here is the rule from page 10:

    Defending submarines may submerge instead of firing back. The sub is turned on its side to indicate this submerged condition. It remains on its side and may not attack or be attacked again this turn. Submerged subs are returned to their upright position in Action Sequence 6. Note: Submarines are the only defending units in the game that may withdraw from battle.


  • @The_Good_Captain

    My Sub will fire to the death for the Great Stalin. Retreat is not an option.


  • @Ragnell804

    Russian sub returns fire [dice 1d6]


  • 1d6: 5


  • @The_Good_Captain

    German subs surprise strike round 2 [dice 2d6]


  • 2d6: 2, 5


  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Davis Strait Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 transport moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Malta to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Libya
            1 armour moved from Tunisia to Libya
            1 fighter moved from Algeria to Libya
            1 bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Libya
            1 submarine moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to North Atlantic Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Barents Sea Sea Zone
            2 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
            2 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            6 armour, 3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            2 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Baltic States
            2 fighters moved from Finland to Barents Sea Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to Barents Sea Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Davis Strait Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Barents Sea Sea Zone: 1 submarine and 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Battle in Barents Sea Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 3 fighters and 2 submarines
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                Germans winGermans win with 3 fighters and 2 submarines remaining with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in East Poland
                Germans attack with 10 armour, 6 artilleries and 19 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 6 artilleries and 19 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 12/35 hits, 11.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
                Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 10 armour, 6 artilleries and 19 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Libya
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Libya, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Libya
                    1 artillery owned by the British, 3 infantry owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Libya
                Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Libya to Southern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Hungary
            1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
            1 bomber moved from Libya to Vichy France
            2 fighters moved from Baltic States to Poland
            21 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 fighter moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Germany
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
            1 fighter moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
            1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Bay of Biscay Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Germans
            13 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 42 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : 0.33
    Germans regular : 3.17
    British regular : 1.33
    

    G2.tsvg

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