TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3

SuperbattleshipYamato

Thanks for the advice!

The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 21

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 4 fighters, 10 infantry and 2 tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        3 units repaired.
        12 infantry moved from Serbia to Bulgaria
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tank moved from Albania to Serbia
        4 fighters moved from Vienna to Serbia
        10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 13 infantry and 3 tanks moved from Bordeaux to Spain
        5 infantry moved from Burgundy to Lorraine
        1 fighter moved from Burgundy to Lorraine
        2 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
              AustroHungarians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
        1 transport moved from SZ 19 to SZ 18
        2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        10 infantry moved from Vienna to Galicia
        1 transport moved from SZ 19 to SZ 28
        2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to SZ 28
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 28 to SZ 27
        2 infantry moved from SZ 27 to Somaliland
              AustroHungarians take Somaliland from Italians
        2 infantry moved from Trieste to SZ 18
        2 infantry moved from SZ 18 to Tuscany
        16 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia
        2 infantry moved from Tuscany to Piedmont
        1 artillery moved from Tuscany to Piedmont

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Spain
            AustroHungarians attack with 10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 14 infantry and 3 tanks
            Americans defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 14 infantry and 3 tanks in Spain, round 2 : 13/28 hits, 14.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Spain, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 2 tanks owned by the AustroHungarians
                2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Spain
            AustroHungarians win, taking Spain from Americans with 10 artilleries, 1 fighter, 14 infantry and 3 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        Battle in Lorraine
            AustroHungarians attack with 1 fighter and 5 infantry
            French defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Lorraine, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 infantry in Lorraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Lorraine
            AustroHungarians win, taking Lorraine from French with 1 fighter and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        4 fighters, 10 infantry and 2 tanks placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 71 PUs; end with 71 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.50
French regular : 0.50
AustroHungarians regular : -2.33

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato

Game History

Round: 21

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 11 infantry and 3 tanks; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        6 units repaired.
        1 infantry moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
              Germans take Mesopotamia from British
        11 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Persia to Sevastopol
        2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Sevastopol
        2 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine
        3 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia
        2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tank moved from Hanover to Ruhr
        2 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr
        1 infantry moved from Burgundy to Picardy
              Germans take Picardy from French
        10 infantry moved from Munich to Switzerland
        1 infantry moved from Silesia to Poland
        1 artillery moved from Silesia to Poland
        1 infantry moved from Silesia to Galicia
        2 fighters moved from Munich to Belgium

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Belgium
            Germans attack with 2 fighters and 10 infantry
            French defend with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 10 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 3/12 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the French and 2 artilleries owned by the French lost in Belgium
            Germans win, taking Belgium from French with 2 fighters and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for French: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Germans
        12 infantry moved from Berlin to Hanover
        1 fighter moved from Berlin to Silesia
        1 fighter moved from Silesia to Galicia
        3 battleships moved from SZ 16 to SZ 17

    Place Units - Germans
        11 infantry and 3 tanks placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 58 PUs; end with 60 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0.50
Germans regular : -1.00

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SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 21

    Puchase Units - French
        French buy 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from Paris to Bordeaux
              French take Bordeaux from AustroHungarians

    Combat - French

    Combat Move - French

    Place Units - French
        1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Paris

    Turn Complete - French
        French collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 21

    Puchase Units - British
        British buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 2 fighters
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Arabia: 2 fighters
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        3 fighters moved from Arabia to Ankara
        1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Trans-Jordan
              British take Trans-Jordan from Ottomans
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Trans-Jordan
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tank moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia
        4 artilleries, 16 infantry and 2 tanks moved from India to Persia
              British take Persia from Germans
        2 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia
        1 cruiser moved from SZ 8 to SZ 22

    Combat - British
        Battle in Mesopotamia
            British attack with 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tank
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tank in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the British
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Mesopotamia
            British win, taking Mesopotamia from Germans with 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by French from Constantinople: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by French to Ankara: 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        10 artilleries, 1 fighter and 10 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
        1 battleship moved from SZ 8 to SZ 14
        5 fighters moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert
        5 fighters moved from Syrian Desert to Ankara
        1 fighter moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert
        1 fighter moved from Syrian Desert to Ankara
        2 fighters moved from Ankara to Syrian Desert
        2 fighters moved from Syrian Desert to Ankara

    Place Units - British
        1 artillery, 2 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tank placed in India

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.50
British regular : -1.00

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 21

    Turn Complete - Ottomans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 21

    Combat Move - Italians
                AustroHungarians roll mine dice in SZ 16 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                AustroHungarians roll mine dice in SZ 17 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
        1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from SZ 14 to SZ 17

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in SZ 17
            Italians attack with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Germans defend with 3 battleships; AustroHungarians defend with 1 mines and 1 submarine
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in SZ 17, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
            Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Germans
                Germans roll dice for 3 battleships and 1 submarine in SZ 17, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in SZ 17
            Germans win with 3 battleships and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is -21
            Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser

    Combat Move - Italians

    Turn Complete - Italians

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.83
AustroHungarians mine : -0.67
Germans regular : 0.67

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Game History

Round: 21

    Puchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 7 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
                AustroHungarians roll mine dice in SZ 16 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                AustroHungarians roll mine dice in SZ 17 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits
        3 battleships and 1 submarine moved from SZ 14 to SZ 17

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in SZ 17
            Americans attack with 3 battleships and 1 submarine
            Germans defend with 3 battleships; AustroHungarians defend with 1 mines and 1 submarine
                Americans roll dice for 3 battleships and 1 submarine in SZ 17, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans roll dice for 3 battleships and 1 submarine in SZ 17, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Americans
                1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the AustroHungarians lost in SZ 17
                Americans roll dice for 3 battleships and 1 submarine in SZ 17, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 battleships in SZ 17, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in SZ 17
                Americans roll dice for 3 battleships and 1 submarine in SZ 17, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in SZ 17, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in SZ 17
            Americans win with 3 battleships remaining. Battle score for attacker is 36
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Germans: 3 battleships
            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

    Combat Move - Americans
        3 transports moved from SZ 2 to SZ 1
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1
        1 transport moved from SZ 7 to SZ 1
        1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 2
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from SZ 2 to Canada

    Place Units - Americans
        1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in United States of America
        1 transport placed in SZ 1

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 27 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -2.00
AustroHungarians mine : -1.33
Germans regular : -0.33

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

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The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato I cannot accept the way you dispersed hits on the CP ships relative to how you allocated hits made on your own forces on the naval battle in SZ17.

Why did you do this?

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

I mean, I assume that if you have battleships you have each of them take a hit first, then work your way from the cheapest to most expensive.

Unless I’ve been playing battleship theory completely wrong this whole time?

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato Right, but that’s not what happened according to the history. It states that you selected hits in a way that sank whole battleships first.

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -2.00
AustroHungarians mine : -1.33
Germans regular : -0.33

Also, the TUV doesn’t make any sense. How could the USA score -2 while the Germans score -.33 when both sides have the exact same pieces and piece count (eg 3 battleships and 1 sub vs 3 battleships and 1 sub)?

The_Good_Captain

@The_Good_Captain said in TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3:

Also, the TUV doesn’t make any sense. How could the USA score -2 while the Germans score -.33 when both sides have the exact same pieces and piece count (eg 3 battleships and 1 sub vs 3 battleships and 1 sub)?

And yet there are three USA battleships remaining… ?

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato Ohhhhh. I got it. I missed the Italians. Okay, I understand now. Sorry for the confusion. Just a small ‘heads up’ going forward, anytime there is a submarine in combat, it can submerge between rounds instead of firing back. I think that made me even more confused. Anyway, neither here nor there. Taking AH 22…

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato

Game History

Round: 22

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 8 fighters and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        2 units repaired.
        17 artilleries, 11 fighters, 68 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        1 artillery, 4 fighters, 17 infantry and 1 tank moved from Serbia to Romania
        10 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania
        4 fighters moved from Vienna to Romania
        2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        2 infantry moved from Trieste to SZ 18
        2 infantry moved from SZ 18 to Tuscany
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Piedmont to Tuscany
        4 infantry moved from Lorraine to Burgundy
        1 fighter moved from Lorraine to Marseilles
        1 fighter moved from Spain to Portugal
        6 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Spain to Portugal
        4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tank moved from Spain to Marseilles
        8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Vienna to Galicia
        1 infantry moved from Somaliland to SZ 27
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 27 to SZ 26
        1 infantry moved from SZ 26 to Madagascar
              AustroHungarians take Madagascar from French
        1 infantry moved from Somaliland to British East Africa
              AustroHungarians take British East Africa from British
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo
              AustroHungarians take Belgian Congo from British
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa
              AustroHungarians take French Equatorial Africa from French

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Portugal
            AustroHungarians attack with 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 2 tanks
            British defend with 2 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 2 tanks in Portugal, round 2 : 8/17 hits, 8.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Portugal, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the AustroHungarians
                2 infantry owned by the British lost in Portugal
            AustroHungarians win, taking Portugal from British with 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 2 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        8 fighters and 7 infantry placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 75 PUs; end with 77 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

AustroHungarians regular : -0.67
British regular : 0.00

The_Good_Captain

@SuperbattleshipYamato

Game History

Round: 22

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 8 fighters and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        2 units repaired.
        17 artilleries, 11 fighters, 68 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        1 artillery, 4 fighters, 17 infantry and 1 tank moved from Serbia to Romania
        10 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania
        4 fighters moved from Vienna to Romania
        2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        2 infantry moved from Trieste to SZ 18
        2 infantry moved from SZ 18 to Tuscany
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Piedmont to Tuscany
        4 infantry moved from Lorraine to Burgundy
        1 fighter moved from Lorraine to Marseilles
        1 fighter moved from Spain to Portugal
        6 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Spain to Portugal
        4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 tank moved from Spain to Marseilles
        8 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Vienna to Galicia
        1 infantry moved from Somaliland to SZ 27
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 27 to SZ 26
        1 infantry moved from SZ 26 to Madagascar
              AustroHungarians take Madagascar from French
        1 infantry moved from Somaliland to British East Africa
              AustroHungarians take British East Africa from British
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo
              AustroHungarians take Belgian Congo from British
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to French Equatorial Africa
              AustroHungarians take French Equatorial Africa from French

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Portugal
            AustroHungarians attack with 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 2 tanks
            British defend with 2 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 2 tanks in Portugal, round 2 : 8/17 hits, 8.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Portugal, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the AustroHungarians
                2 infantry owned by the British lost in Portugal
            AustroHungarians win, taking Portugal from British with 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 2 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these AustroHungarians owned units to: tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        8 fighters and 7 infantry placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 75 PUs; end with 77 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

AustroHungarians regular : -0.67
British regular : 0.00

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SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Exceedingly odd. I promise you and swear by my life that wasn’t intentional.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Looking at the history, I’m correct, I applied the hits correctly.

What you forgot is that I sent a suicidal Italian attack that damaged two German battleships and immediately followed it up with the aforementioned US attack.

That is how the US won.

SuperbattleshipYamato

@The_Good_Captain

Crap. Didn’t see that comment when I responded.

No worries.

TGC (CP) vs Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob, with RR rule, Game 3

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