Anyone ever play Axis and Allies in a free for all format?

Japan has all the advantages in 5 teams all out for themselves…

Britain in particular has territories all over the world that it cannot defend without help.

Japan can claim early income from US, Russia, and UK.

Remember, in a free for all, Russia may very well destroy Sinkiang’s forces, and will probably take Persia on R1.  That isolates China and India and allows Japan to mop-up.

As for the UK… in addition to losing their distnat empire, they have the US and Germany both aiming at London…  Better build INF while you can…

UK is just toast.

USA takes Canada (-4) on USA1.
Germany takes Egypt (-2) on G1
Japan takes India on (-3) either J1 or J2

That puts UK in a hole to begin with (-9, or nearly 1/3 of their income to start)

UK can;t afford to attack Norway on UK1, because of the risk of invasion by US forces on US1, unless it is left totally vacant (not as likely in a free for all game).
Also, US will not be going to Africa on USA2 to lioberate it for UK, but to take it for themselves.  So Germany will race through Africa first (taking all 9 UK IPC’s), with USA following behind them to claim Africa for the USA.

Meanwhile, Uk will be building up navy and landing forces to make their move a few turns later… a make or break move for them.

So USA and Germany are after UK in Africa.
UK is trying to prevent invasion from Germany and USA
Russia is after USA in Sinkiang and China, UK in the Middle East (all of which have negligable defense)

Only Japan has no imminent threat.

Once they crack the initial Russian units in the east, Japan is off to the races.

They can grab 3 from USSR, 2-4 from USA, 6 from UK… all before they hit any real opposition.

So while everyone else is on the defensive, or trading and counter trading in 3 or 4 way fights, Japan is gaining gorund, and building up offesnive units, with their only real opponent being Russia which has to deal with the US in China, UK landings, and Germany.  So Russia is NOT going to be focusing on 1 IPC territories far from home, but fighting for dear life in Karelia, West Russia, and Caucuses.

Game to Japan :-)

risk is awfully superficial
when you play risk you would at least play with advanced rules

America won’t be playing defensively either and if they just secure the Atlantic they can go into the Pacific right away and go island hopping which will hurt Japans income so they might be ahead of Japan and America can outproduce Japan if they basically go all Pacific and they are being defensive with their fleet in the Pacific and taking islands while waiting for Japan to counter attack so US might force Japan to build more ships then they would like rather then going all out mainland.

I have a version I have made up using the existing units and map with a set of rules that modify the original rules. Be sure to give me feedback.

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@tekkyy:

risk is awfully superficial
when you play risk you would at least play with advanced rules

I personally love Risk.  Its not about fancy units and smart buys, its more about diplomacy.  And its easier to teach a beginner than Axis and Allies, so some of my friends prefer Risk.

There was a discussion not too long ago aboutt his in the Variant Rules forum, I posted a link with a few rules sets to play like this.

I prefer to play untl 2 powers get eliminated, and then the remainng 3 get winning placements by their IPC totals.

There was one rules set that made for spenind IPC’s to declare war, a rules I really liked.

UK might not be toast, if the US or Germany forms and alliance, the UK can survive a bit longer, using their remaining navy or airforce to attack either US or Germany (whoever didnt make the alliance, obviously).  If Russia makes a border alliance with Germany, trading WRus for Karellia, then it takes a load off of both Russia and Germany, since they can now devote their forces towards Africa/Britain and Towards mainland Asia.

@Cobert:

I prefer to play untl 2 powers get eliminated, and then the remainng 3 get winning placements by their IPC totals.

yeah that would be interesting actually
can add to diplomactic aspect

still the other aspects of Risk are a bit crap for me

I played a few games of risk and starting thinking about how to make it a little more advanced, strategic, realistic
and before you know it I found a game called Axis and Allies  :mrgreen:

I guess I could enjoy Risk if
*more than 3 attacking vs. 2 defending
*no unlimited movement
*horse and canon being actual units

but most would say thats  Risk anymore  :mrgreen:

I like unlimited attacking (in Risk only), it adds an element of surprise since you can attack right into your opponents gut.

Im playing a free-for-all game later tonight.  Im probably going to be Russia, jus to add a challenge.

I sense an early treaty with Germany and a war with the UK in my future…Russia in africa/india might not be a bad idea.

@Cobert:

I like unlimited attacking (in Risk only), it adds an element of surprise since you can attack right into your opponents gut.

Im playing a free-for-all game later tonight.  Im probably going to be Russia, jus to add a challenge.

I sense an early treaty with Germany and a war with the UK in my future…Russia in africa/india might not be a bad idea.

ithink japan will be the most intresting to play. probably most likely to piss everyone off. it has no common enemy everyone except german yis in the grasp of japan. even then if japan want safrica they may start a war. you may have to give up ypu 2 eaxstern countries as appesment. but don’t forget to attack sinkiang first turn.  w.r russia should fall to you to so german should evacuvate it 1st turn.