L21 playoff OOB jkeller(X) vs trulpen (L+43)

  • 2024 '22

  • 2024 '22

    @jkeller Game History

    Round: 17
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from France to 112 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 91 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern France to 92 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Finland to Norway
            2 fighters moved from France to Norway
            2 bombers moved from Southern Italy to Norway
            4 fighters moved from Southern France to 113 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to 113 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Turkey to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from Turkey to Iraq
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Tobruk
                  Germans take Alexandria from British
                  Italians take Tobruk from Russians
            2 armour moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 artillery moved from Belarus to Archangel
            2 infantry moved from Belarus to Archangel
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 112 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in Norway
                Germans attack with 3 bombers and 5 fighters
                Americans defend with 2 bombers, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 bombers and 5 fighters in Norway, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 2 bombers owned by the Americans lost in Norway
                Germans win with 3 bombers and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 2 bombers and 2 infantry
            Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber
                Americans defend with 1 submarine and 4 transports
                1 submarine owned by the Americans submerged
                    4 transports owned by the Americans lost in 91 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
                Casualties for Americans: 4 transports
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 92 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 fighter and 2 transports; Americans defend with 1 carrier
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.83 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 transports in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 1 carrier owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter and 2 transports
            Battle in Archangel
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
                Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Iraq
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Iraq
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Iraq, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
                Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5
                Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
                Germans attack with 2 armour and 5 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 5 mech_infantrys in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Trans-Jordan
                Germans win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 2 armour and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Tobruk: 1 armour
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Tobruk from Italians to Russians
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Vologda to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Urals to Smolensk
            3 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
            1 fighter moved from Iraq to Caucasus
            4 armour moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 aaGun, 4 armour and 18 mech_infantrys moved from Turkey to Caucasus
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            4 fighters moved from Norway to Western Germany
            3 bombers moved from Norway to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            4 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany
            2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
            6 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
            1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Rostov
            1 aaGun moved from Volgograd to Rostov
            1 aaGun moved from Volgograd to Rostov
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to France
            1 aaGun moved from France to Southern France
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1,4,4,4,1,2,5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3
            Germans collect 60 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 60 PUs
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 80 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.67
    Russians regular : -0.33
    Germans regular : 2.17
    British regular : 0.67
    

  • 2024 '22

    Game History

    Round: 17
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Philippines to 45 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kansu to Timguska
                  Japanese take Timguska from Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
                  Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Timguska
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
            2 fighters moved from Hopei to Kansu
            9 artilleries and 24 infantry moved from India to West India
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 7 fighters, 1 infantry, 15 submarines, 5 tactical_bombers and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 7 fighters, 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
                  Japanese take New Guinea from ANZAC
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 15 submarines and 1 transport
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 battleship, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 15 submarines and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Java
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 7 fighters, 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
                ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 7 fighters, 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Java, round 2 : 9/14 hits, 7.50 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
                Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 7 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
            Battle in West India
                Japanese attack with 9 artilleries and 24 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 9 artilleries and 24 infantry in West India, round 2 : 10/33 hits, 8.50 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in West India, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in West India
                Japanese win, taking West India from Americans with 9 artilleries and 23 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in 45 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                ANZAC defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            4 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            2 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 bomber moved from Yunnan to India
            1 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            4 fighters moved from Hopei to 35 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Hopei to India
            7 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            5 submarines moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 9 infantry, 10 submarines and 5 transports moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kansu: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from India: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to India: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kansu: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India
            2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Japan
            2 mech_infantrys placed in French Indo China
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 35 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3
            Japanese collect 68 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 68 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.67
    Japanese regular : 3.00
    ANZAC regular : 1.17
    
  • 2024 '22


  • Soaked a sub hit on the bs. 5 more hits. Casualties?

    Since you have one more soaking possibility I can’t make an assumption here.

    L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB battle.tsvg

  • 2024 '22

    shit being careless…didnt even consider you would attack there lol. ya soak the carrier please. then subs etc

  • 2024 '22

    you know what? because of all the transports i take it back. leave the carrier intact for now. take sub hits in the first round in the off chance i get lucky and win here
    am i right in assuming if there is nothing but your planes and my subs left that my transports would die right? i am still getting used to the rules in this version


  • It’s tricky and the tr’s carry a lot of value.

    If there’s nothing defending the tr’s, they die automatically.

    One thing to consider is that ANZAC have a follow-up attack. I think though that keeping the carrier intact still gives you the best chance for survival. The air won’t be able to land, so when the ac is soaked, they die automatically even after a retreat.


  • If there are only subs left on the defense and I still have air that is attacking, yes, then the subs survive, but all tr’s get sunk.


  • Did some battle rounds on the principle. This last one might be tricky. 4 hits and the question is whether to take a des or fig as casualty. There is an aussie sub waiting in the backwaters.

    Think you have to choose this. It’s just to delicate to assume.

    L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB battle.tsvg


  • Actually the bs is an alternative also.

  • 2024 '22

    @trulpen cant believe i allowed this. I am doing my best with both germany and japan to let the allies back in the game lol

  • 2024 '22

    @jkeller take two dd and two subs as casualties please. dont want my birds landing in the drink without even getting shot. on next round if there are exactly 4 hits you can take carrier and fighters down together and leave the bb to the last


  • Will do. You got 4 hits on defense, so I’ll have to decide whether to press on or retreat.

    I didn’t see that my sub could be taken as casualty from your sub hit, which is strange. I’ll correct that.


  • Will have to retreat and restart the battle if I continue, since 3A won’t take edits into account.




  • @jkeller said in L21 playoff OOB jkeller(X) vs trulpen (L+43):

    didnt even consider you would attack there lol

    I actually only started to look at it since it felt that my poor small fleet was being squashed from two sides.


  • Did one more battle round, got 3 hits. Think the only rational choice is to sack the figs and dmg ac.

    L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB battle.tsvg

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