20L Semis Ksmckay(X) vs Adam514(a+15)

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 11

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 11

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 4 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 2 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 unit repaired.
        2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 marine moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 6 infantry, 1 marine and 4 transports moved from 31 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 31 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 marine moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 26 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 25 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Japan to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
              Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
        1 carrier moved from 31 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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@Adam514 doesnt really matter but no real reason not to, sending a carrier to 26

@Adam514 arghhh, Im gonna think about this some more. Never been in a game like this so its really hard for me to judge Europe. I have an alternate pacific play but just unsure how Europe is going to look but I have some ideas that I need to hash out. So will sleep on things and see how things look tomorrow.

@adam514 yeah I had decided to go for it at that point and if the bomber had been lost I would have definitely been committed. But since its not, I am still not sure.

You could have used that anzac transport to take back Hawaii. With 2 less units to attack Hawaii it pushes the win odds to 50/50 or maybe slightly better.

@Adam514 meh, im going for it. so last map is good

@adam514 so are you going to scramble, or do you want to think about things more?

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 11

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 11

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 4 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 2 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 unit repaired.
        2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 marine moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 6 infantry, 1 marine and 4 transports moved from 31 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 31 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 marine moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 26 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 25 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Japan to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
              Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
        1 carrier moved from 31 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
        Battle in 25 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 4 fighters
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 4 fighters in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in 25 Sea Zone
                Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters in 25 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 25 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 25 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -16
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber and 1 fighter
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Hawaiian Islands
            Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 5 fighters, 6 infantry, 1 marine and 5 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 6 fighters, 1 harbour and 4 infantry; ANZAC defend with 3 fighters
                Americans roll AA dice in Hawaiian Islands : 2/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Hawaiian Islands
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 6 infantry, 1 marine and 4 tactical_bombers in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 6/17 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 9 fighters and 4 infantry in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 7/13 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                6 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese, 2 aaGuns owned by the Americans and 4 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 marine and 4 tactical_bombers in Hawaiian Islands, round 3 : 7/10 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 9 fighters in Hawaiian Islands, round 3 : 3/9 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese, 3 fighters owned by the ANZAC and 4 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands
                Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers in Hawaiian Islands, round 4 : 3/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters in Hawaiian Islands, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands
            Japanese win, taking Hawaiian Islands from Americans with 4 fighters, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 43
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for Americans: 2 aaGuns, 6 fighters and 4 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 3 fighters
        Battle in Borneo
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            ANZAC defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Borneo, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Borneo
            Japanese win, taking Borneo from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -3.33
Japanese regular : -4.83
Americans AA : 1.00
ANZAC regular : -0.67

Savegame

@Adam514 good dice again for axis.

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 11

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 11

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 4 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 2 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 unit repaired.
        2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 marine moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 6 infantry, 1 marine and 4 transports moved from 31 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 31 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 marine moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 26 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 25 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Japan to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
              Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
        1 carrier moved from 31 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
        Battle in 25 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 4 fighters
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 4 fighters in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in 25 Sea Zone
                Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters in 25 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 25 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 25 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -16
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber and 1 fighter
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Hawaiian Islands
            Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 5 fighters, 6 infantry, 1 marine and 5 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 6 fighters, 1 harbour and 4 infantry; ANZAC defend with 3 fighters
                Americans roll AA dice in Hawaiian Islands : 2/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Hawaiian Islands
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 6 infantry, 1 marine and 4 tactical_bombers in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 6/17 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 9 fighters and 4 infantry in Hawaiian Islands, round 2 : 7/13 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                6 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese, 2 aaGuns owned by the Americans and 4 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 marine and 4 tactical_bombers in Hawaiian Islands, round 3 : 7/10 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 9 fighters in Hawaiian Islands, round 3 : 3/9 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese, 3 fighters owned by the ANZAC and 4 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands
                Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers in Hawaiian Islands, round 4 : 3/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters in Hawaiian Islands, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Hawaiian Islands
            Japanese win, taking Hawaiian Islands from Americans with 4 fighters, 1 marine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 43
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for Americans: 2 aaGuns, 6 fighters and 4 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 3 fighters
        Battle in Borneo
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            ANZAC defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Borneo, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Borneo
            Japanese win, taking Borneo from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        3 carriers and 1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 5 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 5 fighters and 8 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Borneo to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from West India to India
        1 infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
        1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        8 mech_infantrys moved from Hunan to Yunnan
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        1 submarine moved from 72 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to Wake Island

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu
        3 artilleries placed in India
        1 artillery and 1 marine placed in French Indo China
        1 transport placed in 36 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 63 PUs; end with 66 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 69 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 79 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -3.33
Japanese regular : -4.83
Americans AA : 1.00
ANZAC regular : -0.67

Savegame

@adam514 said in 20L Semis Ksmckay(X) vs Adam514(a+15):

@ksmckay Yeah probably only a hail Mary left for the Allies.

feel free to just conduct the z26 battle and if you are successful enough to give hope to anzac retaking hawaii then you can do whatever you want with US purchases and remaining combat. But no reason to think through europe and such if you dont want to since odds are slim.

@Adam514

OOL in 26 is
damage cvs and bb
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if you still have subs left then at this point you can go
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if no subs left at that point then
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@adam514 thanks. good game.

rough g1 but pretty good dice for axis afterwards. always felt like I had just enough to do what I needed everywhere. a bit more attrition (or less attrition for allies) would have made a difference.

I regret not defending Norway the turn you took it. I think I could have protected it that turn but I didnt think you would go for it when you did. That was costly, thought you would rather have normandy that turn but Norway was the right call there I think.

Not sure I should have gone to Africa. Felt like I needed to apply some pressure in that area to divert some UK resources and let Germany build up some defense. Hard to judge the consequences of that decision. I felt like simply holding at that time was sufficient for Japan since you were investing pretty heavily in pacific I thought Pacific would get tougher than it did quicker.

Would have liked to play this one out without attacking Hawaii but I felt a squeeze coming on Japan and felt like I was going to lose momentum there and be stuck playing defensively in Europe and would have found myself behind in a few turns regretting not taking the chance.

thanks for the game.

@jdow 80% with expected 5 units left. Needed at least 3 surviving units to keep odds of allies retaking things below 25%