A List of "Games" that are Axis & Allies Expansions in Disguise

This game doesn’t fit your main parameters for time-frame (modern) or for location (Earth), but it’s the closest thing I’ve ever seen to a space-warfare version of Axis & Allies: Twilight Imperium (currently in its 4th edition for the main game; the 3rd edition consists of the main game and 2 expansion sets) by Fantasy Flight games. Lots of neat sculpts.

Personally I would call games like East & West and The War to End All Wars ‘expansions’.

OLD SITE:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030626131004/http://www.wargamer.com:80/axisandallies/ce/commercial_expansions_main.html

@Midnight_Reaper Then also please add (the great game) Buck Rogers: Battle for the 25th Century.

See some nice pictures of the game here:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2018/07/retro-buck-rogers-board-game-was-twilight-imperium-before-twilight-imperium.html

@Midnight_Reaper said in A List of "Games" that are Axis & Allies Expansions in Disguise:

Engage

• American Units
• German Units
• Japanese Units
• Russian Units

-Midnight_Reaper

This is to expand on your entry for Engage, which lists four unit groups: American Units, German Units, Japanese Units, and Russian Units. There are actually six groups, the two others being the British and Italian ones. I bought one of each of these sets when they were published in 2010 by Table Tactics. They were originally intended to serve as supplementary pieces for A&A, but more sophisticated and realistic than TT’s earlier A&A-based products; later, they were repackaged as the Engage game you mention.

Regarding those earlier TT products, which are listed in one of your other threads on this topic (Axis and Allies Accessories, Axis and Allies Central Powers, Axis and Allies New Edition Color, and Axis and Allies New World Order), TT also produced a couple of related games (Cromwell 2026 and Risk 2042) which used some of those A&A units (the ones from New World Order, if I remember correctly).

@Midnight_Reaper said in A List of "Games" that are Axis & Allies Expansions in Disguise:

So, I listed the Americans, Germans, Japanese, and Russians as expansions to Engage, which comes with the British and Italians in the box. I was unaware of those units being sold separately from the main Engage game. I can certainly add those as options, thanks for letting me know. (Of course, now I want to know more about the timeline from the making of those units to the making of the game of Engage.)

-Midnight_Reaper

As a bit of extra background information, I’ve copied below part of a message I received from a forum member back in October 2014, when this topic was being discussed. I had previously sent him an email about the older TT sculpts, and then I commented as follows about the new ones: “I bought one sprue of each type as an experiment and never ordered any more because I was so disappointed in the product. Major variations in sculpt sizes, extra-thick sprues that were very hard to cut, large discoloured patches left on each piece once it had been cut away – so many problems, in fact, that I never bothered detaching most of the pieces. Very disappointing, so I’m doubly glad that we have HBG producing much better units than these later TT ones.” He responded:

Sent to: CWO Marc
Unfortunately they're only in MB Classic colors but there are tons of them. As for those pieces for Engage! I could care less I thought those were too big and I never really cared for them. 
I honestly have a small place in my heart for those old TT units it just seems to have been bad timing for the TT team. I sadly heard that the owner made a mistake when sizing the sculpts for the game Engage! His intent, so I've heard, was that they were to be compatible with A&A, and the game Engage! was pretty much just trying to make the best of a bad situation.
The other story I heard is that the last of the TT stock was dumped onto the market as TT was done with the sculpt business. I know Coach has TT pieces in stock on the German HBG site but many of them are now no longer available.

More info: if you search “table tactics axis allies 2010” on Google you’ll find (see the attached picture) four of the six sets identified as Axis and Allies 2010. And if you google “table tactics new products release axisandallies.org”, you’ll get links to several useful forum threads, including this one…

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/11512/table-tactics-new-product-release/202?page=9&lang=en-US

…which includes pictures.

@Midnight_Reaper said in A List of "Games" that are Axis & Allies Expansions in Disguise:

Thanks for enlightening me. My question to you is: if I list Engage the game, and its four expansions, should I list the A&A 2010 expansion pieces on top of that? What do you think?

It’s essentially the same question that applies to some of TT’s earlier sculpts which (as you indicated in an earlier post) served double-duty: TT used them as A&A expansion pieces and as the components of games with non A&A-titles. There’s no inherently correct way to enter / describe this situation in a list; it depends entirely on the conceptual framework for your list, and the framework is whatever you decide it to be. If your list is title-based, the pieces should probably be entered twice: once as six separately-purchasable sets (AM, BR, RU, GE, JA, IT) of A&A 2010 expansions, and once as the “Engage” game. As a sculpt collector, my own view of TT’s products takes the different approach of focusing on the sculpts themselves (design and colour); from that perspective, a Sculpt X that was issued as part of an A&A expansion set (all of which I own) and an identical Sculpt X that was issued in a non-AA-titled game like Cromwell 2026 or Risk 2042 or Engage (none of which I own) work out to be the same thing, and I’d throw them all into the same compartment of my TT storage tray without differentiating between their point of origin.