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Hello everyone. I’ve been viewing this forum for years now and have finally registered. I first started playing Axis and Allies Classic in 1994 and have followed the game through its many incarnations. I haven’t had a chance to read a lot of recent posts but I’ll try to catch up. Right now trying to navigate your board on my phone as I’m, eh, between laptops. I’ve always had a habit of mixing game pieces and making up new rules. I guess when you grow up in the seventies that’s an occupational hazard–lots of board games and not too many computer ones? I have a project I’d like to introduce to get some feedback on–hopefully it’s not too much like “The Cones of Dunshire,” (Parks and Recreation–forget the season) but the nice accountants liked that one. Anyway nice to finally be here.

@Admiral:

Hi Baron,

I know it’s been a while since you posted this, but I have been toying with the idea of increasing air-to-air combat in a way that is very similar to what you have presented here.

I think the A2 D2-3 C6 Fighter is a very interesting idea. Having them target other air units before anything else is a simple and effective way to simulate that air-to-air combat. I also like how the combat values would now be the same in SBR (makes things simple).

I also really like how you altered Tactical Bombers to be A2-4 D3 C8. The two attack bonuses really give meaning to the importance to air supremacy.

I am curious to know how these two units have worked for you.

Thanks!

It evolves into this roster:
Baron’s HR units charts and set-up for 1941, 1942.2 and AA50
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=36833.msg1469053#msg1469053

The main reason is because of too many combined arms and bonus for TcBs and Fgs.
Makes for longer combat round and more details to consider to get the correct bonus per combat round.
Since the point was about hitting directly other planes, I simplified the TcB special ability.
That way, combined arms is now reserved to ground units.
So, it is easier to focus on what is specific to Fg and TcB.
I always start combat rounds with preemptive AAA, then these two units (when present) fire, then all other units.
HTH.
Baron

an old expansion for classic called for something similar. but it was 2 turns off the board a third turn on the board. even came with an index card sized tracker to keep track of how long it’s been off the board. You had to keep track of movements you made with each sub with a piece of paper. And had to make detection rolls to find them if they are off the board. If they were on the board no detection roll was needed. At anytime a player can call into question that the subs are where they are suppose to be and one allied player (of the axis choosing) and the other axis player. work together to track the subs movements and judge to make sure the rules aren’t broken. If the subs controller cheats he loses the sub. if either side gives away where a hidden sub is hiding the rulebreaker losing 12 ipcs worth of units and the opponents choosing which units. The expansion came with little white stickers so you could number the sea zones in classic. Ahead of it’s time in that respect. Normally the axis picked the russian player and would show them every round what was going on with there subs to avoid confussion later. It was alittle fun to be russia and know where everyone’s sub were and watch as everyone tried to find them. made the game light hearted. It gave the german player and russian player something they could look at each other and laugh about as they were trying to kill each other.

Interesting addition of Communist Chinese forces.

yea i added in planes as attackers but if non transports are in the sea zone, they must attack as normal as per OOB.

Thanks axis_roll!

Trusty

No please post what you got then everybody can jump in and discuss it.

If you can post a link to pictures of the map with pieces it will help convey the idea better.

just post a link for it.

Some would not mind marking up a board.

I do not agree with the mandatory surfacing part of this variation. Some subs remained virtually undetected on their voyages in the war. But the best way to win is to use them (make them appear.)KILL! :wink:

For #s on the szs (sea zones), he/you could use

labels that can be purchased at any office supply store, or a clear plastic sheet with the #s written on it and board corner marks (on the plastic) to know where to situate the sheet over the board, or a masterlist of sea sones.

I’ve used, and currently have some on my board, Avery brand 1/4" round color coding labels which come in a roll. They are very small and can be ignored if you want to play a regular game between trial runs. :)