Victory Conditions w/ Russian Revolution

@El:

What happens if Russia Revolution is declared and Finland is occupied by brithis units and rusian units?

The British units have one turn to get out of Finland.  If they don’t, they are removed from the board.

@El:

Can germany attack Finlad to take over Finland eventhoug is occupied with rusian troops?

No.  Neither side may move units into Russian-controlled territories.

@El:

Can british troops attack livonia which is occupied by germans?

That depends on what you mean by “occupied”.

If Germany controls Livonia, then yes.  The territory is considered to have no original controller for the rest of the game and is therefore up for grabs.

If Livonia is contested, then no.  Allied powers may no longer move units into territories shared between Russia and the Central Powers.

Adding write-up of procedure we use…
Divided into 2 parts, territory is either Original or Non-Original.

PROCEDURE:

The Revolution can occur at the end of any Russian turn starting with turn 4.
At that time an Armistice is offered FROM the new Soviet Russia power TO the Central Powers.  
The offer is NOT optional and is a ONE time offer, that is accepted or rejected.  
IF ACCEPTED…

No further battle against Russian units is permitted.  Travel into territories with ONLY Russian units is forbidden.

Non-Original Russian Territories and Sea Zones (including Serbia and Romania)
1.  Remove all Russian units.
2.  Remove all Russian sea units.
3.  Remove all Russian control tokens, plus, as applies after step 1, if territory is…
a.  Contested…
    No further action.
b.  Other AP or CP powers only…
    Captured territories goes to remaining power, or if multiple, their choice.
    Original territories, control goes to original power. Exception: If original AP
               power’s capital is captured, then control goes to other AP power (if any).
       c.  No units of any power…
            Original territories, control goes to original power.
            All other territories are uncontrolled.

Original Russian Territories
1.  Remove all Russian units, except leave 1 infantry unit where units exist.
2.  Establish territory control…
    a.  Controlled by a CP power…
         The territory remains in that CP power’s control.  The CP power will continue
 to collect IPC income.  Treat these same as any other neutral territory.  These
          can never become Russian territories again.
    b.  Contested, but only with non-Russian powers…
         1.  Add 1 Russian infantry unit.
         2.  Follow step c.
    c.  Contested…
         Territory remains contested for remainder of game.  However the CP player
  is allowed movement through the territory if it maintains a garrison.  AP players
  cannot enter these territories. Plus see step e. ** If CP leaves, it cannot re-enter.**
    d.  Occupied with other AP power(s) only…
         1.  Add 1 Russian infantry unit.
         2.  Follow step e.          
    e.  Shared with other AP power(s) (with or without CP powers)…
         AP player must leave Russia by end of their next move once the revolution
 has occurred or they will be removed from the board.  No battle is allowed in
these territories.  Contested movement restriction (pg 15) does not apply.
    f.  Controlled by Russians only…
        1.  Add 1 Russian infantry in none exists.  Entry by AP/CP powers is forbidden.

In the designer’s Tournament rules (which can be found here), any power can collapse, and Russia has no special rules (the Russian Revolution rules are not used).

@ghr2:

@Texas:

Fighters do have attack/defense during land battles.  After the air battle, the fighters that remain attack/defend at 2.

Where does it say that in the rulebook?

Page 19.  It also says it directly on the battle board.

Wow Turn Coats! I never knew…

I like it…

It appears there will be Naval Bases pre-printed on the board, allowing powers to place naval units and denoting which sea zones are mined, but so far that seems to be all they do.

Slightly revised VC list:

Included a couple of neutrals.

London
Paris
Rome
Petrograd
Kiev
Tiflis
Cairo
Brazzaville
New Delhi

Brussels
Belgrade

Berlin
Cologne
Konigsburg
Vienna
Lemberg
Constantinople
Damascus
Baghdad
Dar-es-Salaam

Wouldn’t have southern Africa on my map (or I’d go the whole hog and have Asia and the Pacific as well), but if it is on there it might as well have tts worth fighting over.

By and large, the above list pairs up VCs across the main fronts vel:

London-Berlin (North Sea)
Paris-Essen (Western Front)
Rome-Vienna (Alpine Front/Adriatic)
Konigsburg-Petrograd (Baltic)
Lemberg-Kiev (Ukraine)
Brazzaville-Dar-es-Salaam (Central Africa)
Cairo-Damascus (Middle East)
Delhi-Baghdad (Mesopotamia)
Tiflis-Erzerum (Caucasus/Black Sea)
New York-Mexico City (Rio Grande Front)
Moscow-Constantinople (The Straits)

No Dreadnoughts should ever be built in the game since it takes 3+ years from start to finish. I understand it makes the game unplayable, but accuracy and not fun must be part of the game.

Extrapolating this further all other naval units take 6-8 turns to build. I understand this means that half the game will have empty oceans, but oh well. Accuracy and not fun is whats important.

Limits on how many of one type of unit get built would also presumably be part of Larry’s rules.

If one thing we know is Axis and Allies is a perfect representation of Historical accuracy, and not fun anymore.

Enjoy the game.