Lets talk about chips

drummerinheat

not to hijack the thread, but i thought i’d let everyone know that WotC is shipping me a replacement board! I just sent them the same picture i shared with all of you and gave my discrepancy. Nice to know that there are still honest good business out there! Now if i could only find a way to get more 1942 2nd Ed chips!!!

IKE

@drummerinheat:

not to hijack the thread, but i thought i’d let everyone know that WotC is shipping me a replacement board! I just sent them the same picture i shared with all of you and gave my discrepancy. Nice to know that there are still honest good business out there! Now if i could only find a way to get more 1942 2nd Ed chips!!!

I prefer these smaller chips too. The 1914 WWI game uses different shades of blue and reds of this same smaller size. I ordered a couple sets from HBG and we use:

grey 1
blue 2
green 3
red 5

http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Supplement-Bag-Chips-1914-WW1_p_1444.html

Young Grasshopper

@IKE:

@drummerinheat:

not to hijack the thread, but i thought i’d let everyone know that WotC is shipping me a replacement board! I just sent them the same picture i shared with all of you and gave my discrepancy. Nice to know that there are still honest good business out there! Now if i could only find a way to get more 1942 2nd Ed chips!!!

I prefer these smaller chips too. The 1914 WWI game uses different shades of blue and reds of this same smaller size. I ordered a couple sets from HBG and we use:

grey 1
blue 2
green 3
red 5

http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Supplement-Bag-Chips-1914-WW1_p_1444.html

I have wanted these, but HBG has been out of stock for some time now.

drummerinheat

I find it odd that WotC doesn’t sell accessories. IE: More IT or ANZ units, factory units, chips, or dice. im sure it’s not as large a demand for them to bother, but…well i basically answered my own question, but i still can hope and wish right!!!???

IdaRed

What other editions of A&A have the new style chips used in '42 2nd edition? Do Europe and Pacific '40 2nd editions use those same type of chips?

I actually really like those chips and would like to find more because I find them easier to work with and count when on the board. Looks like HBG is OOS right now. Strangely they show '40 2nd edition as using the older style chips.

Note: if I should have started a new thread to ask this, kindly let me know. I thought it better to add to the Chip discussion thread than clog up the forums with multiple thread on the same general topic.

Young Grasshopper

@IdaRed:

What other editions of A&A have the new style chips used in '42 2nd edition?Â Do Europe and Pacific '40 2nd editions use those same type of chips?Â

I actually really like those chips and would like to find more because I find them easier to work with and count when on the board.Â Looks like HBG is OOS right now. Strangely they show '40 2nd edition as using the older style chips.

Note: if I should have started a new thread to ask this, kindly let me know.Â I thought it better to add to the Chip discussion thread than clog up the forums with multiple thread on the same general topic.Â

I’m pretty sure 1st Edition 1940 chips are different in size and shape than 2nd Edition chips (mostly because of the added green), but I’m not 100% sure.

CWO Marc

The new-style chips are found in…

Europe 1940 2nd ed.
Pacific 1940 2nd ed.
1942 2nd ed.
WWI 1914

The 1st ed. of the 1940 games used the old style of chips.

This can be seen on the HBG website by clicking on the individual games and looking at the “More items” pages.

[Edit]:

I tried posting some screen shots, but the transaction didn’t go through.

[Additional edit]:

The icon below with the red X through it doesn’t display, but the blue paperclip below it is clickable and the image will actually open if you access it that way.

IdaRed

Thank you! I couldn’t tell that from the picture on the HBG website.

CWO Marc

The ridges and the central logo stamp are hard to see in some of the shots, but the tip-off is that the Europe/Pacific 2nd ed and 1942 2nd ed chip sets contain green chips, and that the WWI 1914 chips sets contain two shades of red and two shades of blue. The old-style chips never used green as far as I can recall, and never used two different shades of the same colour in the same game.

Edit: I’ve just had a look at the Europe/Pacific 2nd ed chip picture on the HBG site using its magnification function and it does look as if the chips – including the green ones – have blank centres rather than logo-stamped centres…so I’m not sure what to make of this. As far as I recall (I’m not at home right now so I can’t check) all of my green chips are logo-stamped…so either my memory is faulting me, or the sealed bags shown on the HBG site are HBG chips rather than OOB ones. Does anyone on the forum have authoritative information on what chip styles are used in Europe/Pacific 2nd ed?

Karl7

All the 1940 chips are the same.

They unfortunately are different from the Revised, Pac 2001, and first Europe edition games, which have I tons of and are just slightly smaller in diameter than the 1940 chips, thus better. (Not sure about anniversary).

I NEVER use the green chips – too confusing to eyeball stacks, and I keep thinking they represent 4 units not 5 etc.

Plus I prefer large grey stacks and only use reds when they really get out of hand.

IdaRed

@Karl7:

All the 1940 chips are the same.

So 2nd edition 1940 uses the old style chips then, same as 1st?

@Karl7:

They unfortunately are different from the Revised, Pac 2001, and first Europe edition games, which have I tons of and are just slightly smaller in diameter than the 1940 chips, thus better. (Not sure about anniversary).

These smaller chips are the ones sold by HBG?

Sorry if I’m being dense here.

CWO Marc

@IdaRed:

So 2nd edition 1940 uses the old style chips then, same as 1st?

Yes, Karl is right. I checked my boxes of chips last evening, and I saw that (contrary to what I remembered yesterday) I do indeed have two types of green chips: plain-centered ones with the old-style ridges, and A&A logo-stamped ones with the new style of ridges. Global 1st ed has no green chips (see the picture file I posted yesterday), Global 2nd ed has plain-center green chips, and 1942 2nd ed has logo-stamped green chips.

Karl7

@IdaRed:

@Karl7:

All the 1940 chips are the same.

So 2nd edition 1940 uses the old style chips then, same as 1st?

@Karl7:

They unfortunately are different from the Revised, Pac 2001, and first Europe edition games, which have I tons of and are just slightly smaller in diameter than the 1940 chips, thus better. (Not sure about anniversary).

These smaller chips are the ones sold by HBG?

Sorry if I’m being dense here.

All 1940 games, 1st and 2nd edition, have the same diameter chips and are interchangeable.

The smaller chips (they are actually on a tiny bit small in diameter but also a bit thicker and easier to use IMO) I was talking about were sold with the old Europe and Pacific games printed in 1999 and 2001, respectively. Avalon Hill used to sell replacement/extra pieces to their games way back in the day. So I bought a ton of extra chips for them. HBG has some of these chips for sale. However, as I say, they are not compatible with the 1940 game chips.

The Spring 1942 game that is the current Axis and Allies standard bearer has completely different chips from all these games. They are the smallest in diameter but also the thickest–way too thick if you ask me.

Always Wanderer

If changes happen every five:
For easier identification of the quantity and to avoid large estimation errors, I think that the best guarantee is given if the distinction is made every five with the characteristics of the change for each fives as obvious as possible. That is, to change the top or two top chips of the stack in each new five of subsequent value. It is also good to use mainly gray chips from below and to complete a stack of up to four gray chips, so that the level of the quantity is indicated by the height of the level. A relevant table that I made in pdf format at the link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7utsvihpqec86r6/AA Chips.pdf?dl=0
You can see my whole post about this “pentadic counting”:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/1618878

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