@Imperious:
The news is being pushed down by pro- french influences (liberal intellectuals who dont want to see their center of progressive culture diminished by the cold truth).
No, the news is no “news” anymore. We have seen that everywhere. I wonder how many “conservative black-african-dictator friends who don’t want to see their business endagered” you need to have out there to suppress the daily news from Congo, Nigeria etc. to keep your argument alive.
@Zooey72:
As far as picking immigrants, France could not of picked a worse group to clash with their secular socialistic government. This has little to do with Islam being horrible, I think there may be places in the US many could settle and no one would interfere with their customs. The Bible belt jumps to mind, the amish (spelling?) are another. The Christians here may not agree with them, but if they kept a good yard and had a job no one would say a thing (other than the bible thumpers who would probably bug them to convert, at worst they are annoying). Islam does not sit well with a secular state.
I disagree.
Islam goes quite well in Turkey.
And the US bible belt would be a pretty hard place i guess. Would you like to have people slaughter lambs in their backyards, without much practice on that except for one slaughter a year (roughly)? And of course, trying to convert a muslim is about the worst crime you can commit in their books. A converted ex-muslim is automatically without rights and free to be killed.
But we were much smarter in how we let people into our country (not just the middle east) than Europe has been. Heck, most of the muslims I have known have been quite a bit higher than me in the economic chain.
That’s absolutly correct. But we are talking children of immigrants here. It is even worse then, that we do not manage to give them a decent education.
Another thing … education reduces the risk of riots and helps acceptance and integration … but it doesn’t do so automatically: many terrorists of 9/11 were highly educated and students at a technical university in Germany.
@Soon_U_Die:
Not sure how you can get to the point in this thread……about needing to accept your immigrants. And yet in the other thread, you thoroughly trash the Op Ed piece that was essentially trying to make that point. Only suggesting that it might be easier to accept a multiplicity of difference rather than one difference. Overly simplistic I agree with you…but still essentially the same point. You need to find a way to accept.
Well, the Op Ed wrote that the multiplicity does not exist, but only a binary difference, the way i read the article. Plus, the way it was written … well, i do fight back :).
And i fully agree, Europe needs to overcome the denail of equal rights and treatment of its immigrants and later generations.
