Personal arguements will end, right now

Yanny,
How come you’uns don’t bane F_alk fer them filthy French words in his sig?

does anybody speak latin? its a dead language, so dont people really just understand it?

really? who do you speak it with? is there a latin speaking community near you? or anywhere for that matter?

Latin’s a very important language to study. Many of today’s languages hail from latin heritage so you can actually use latin to understand your own language more fully.

I think that’s why it’s a popular foreign language in colleges. I kind of wish, in a way, it was required in Jr. High School and High School instead of letting the children choose a foreign language on their own. At the very least we could require it in addition too a foreign language.

Then again, I see no problem with the 9 hour school day, much as many on this board may see problem with it, there are some good I can see from it:

1. A refocusing on hard sciences and mathematics can be established

2. There would be time to teach Christianity, Muslim, Buddist and other religions’ base premises.

3. There would be more time for skill training. (Auto shop, wood shop, metal shop, cooking, tailoring, etc.)

4. There would be structured time for children when their parents are at work instead of allowing them to become hoodlums in the neighborhoods because they are unsupervised.

I’m sure I can think of more reasons later, but that’s what I could think of right off the top of my head.

@Yanny:

Two weeks of Latin in college, I’m starting to speak it : ) Much different than High School.

I could kind of understand why certain faculties might require a smattering of Latin.

In medicine, of coure, many roots, prefixes and suffixes are latin, as well most of the anatomy, many diagnoses (non-eponyms, of course) etc. are also in Latin. naturally Greek has a significant contribution both to English, as well as Latin, in medicine.

Also law (i’m guessing in America as well as) in Canada requires some knowledge of Latin although i understand this is changing as well.
Finally, for those looking to improve their vocabulary as well as facility with French, Spanish, Italian (natch), Portuguese, and Romanian - this would be well facilitated by an understanding of much of the framework/architecture of Latin (at least my French had helped me with the structure of Spanish and Portuguese).

Because I enjoy it.

Tacete! Stay on subject.

imbecile! im not questioning the value of studying it, dont put words in my mouth. im challenging what you said about “speaking” it. its a dead language. nobody speaks it anymore. it is nobody’s first language, it is not changing or evolving. it is closed. people learn it to understand it and read it. they dont speak it.

and jen gets the going off topic award…

@Janus1:

Because I enjoy it.

Tacete! Stay on subject.

imbecile! im not questioning the value of studying it, dont put words in my mouth. im challenging what you said about “speaking” it. its a dead language. nobody speaks it anymore. it is nobody’s first language, it is not changing or evolving. it is closed. people learn it to understand it and read it. they dont speak it.

and jen gets the going off topic award…

Sorry, I did ramble on a bit and go off on a tangent, didnt I?

when did spanish become a dead language?

who speaks latin, and where?

ummm another thread is needed perhaps??

i took three years of Latin, and didnt learn squat, so in my opinion, its a dead language. :)

@Jennifer:

Latin’s a very important language to study. Many of today’s languages hail from latin heritage so you can actually use latin to understand your own language more fully.

I think that’s why it’s a popular foreign language in colleges. I kind of wish, in a way, it was required in Jr. High School and High School instead of letting the children choose a foreign language on their own. At the very least we could require it in addition too a foreign language.

Then again, I see no problem with the 9 hour school day, much as many on this board may see problem with it, there are some good I can see from it:

1. A refocusing on hard sciences and mathematics can be established

2. There would be time to teach Christianity, Muslim, Buddist and other religions’ base premises.

3. There would be more time for skill training. (Auto shop, wood shop, metal shop, cooking, tailoring, etc.)

4. There would be structured time for children when their parents are at work instead of allowing them to become hoodlums in the neighborhoods because they are unsupervised.

I’m sure I can think of more reasons later, but that’s what I could think of right off the top of my head.

I agree with a lot of that, but the last part bothers me a bit. Not because you aren’t right. But because school is not the place to teach a kid values. Keeping them pre-occupied with crap does not mean they are brought up right. People have kids that have no bussiness having kids. They neither know nor care how to raise a child the right way. The burden of your sex should not fall on the rest of society. To use a bad quote, but an appropriate one “you need a license to drive a car, you need one to even catch a fish! But anyone can have a kid.” - “Parenthood”.

I think the major cause of dumb assess in the world is because people have no idea (or care) how to raise a child. To be ready to have kids is based off one thing, and one thing only. “My child’s needs come before my own.”

The way things are, the opposite is true. A parent needs to be home to raise a kid, mother or father. And as far as the ecomony of a family goes. Depends on which parent is more economicaly able to, and which is able to raise the children best.

@Yanny:

who speaks latin, and where?

There is a difference between I am able to speak Latin (possum vocere Latinum) and I speak Latin with my homies on the weekend (voco Latinum cum hominius)

Touche’

However, there are societies (cults, gangs, clubs, whatever you call them) that do speak latin at meetings however. So technically, it isn’t a dead language….but it’s most assuredly not a primary language for anyone.

So why do you think many languages hail from Latin? I’m thinking it might be because of the church myself. For a long time all services were held in latin and that may have unduly influenced the development of many languages.

Any other ideas?

So technically, it isn’t a dead language….

actually, technically, it is. there are no native speakers is sufficient, and necessary, for it to be considered a dead language.

also, while there are some who speak the language, there exist no native speaking communities, which would cause change and evolution of the language, as naturally happens with living languages.

@Janus1:

also, while there are some who speak the language, there exist no native speaking communities, which would cause change and evolution of the language, as naturally happens with living languages.

That might change the moment the catholic church declares the celibate as obsolete :) …. and the Vatican is changing the language. There are latin words for car, TV etc etc.